Cédric Le Goater <c...@kaod.org> writes:
> On 11/11/21 11:41, Michael Ellerman wrote:
>> Cédric Le Goater <c...@kaod.org> writes:
>>> On processors with a XIVE interrupt controller (POWER9 and above), the
>>> kernel can use either doorbells or XIVE to generate CPU IPIs. Sending
>>> doorbell is generally preferred to using the XIVE IC because it is
>>> faster. There are cases where we want to avoid doorbells and use XIVE
>>> only, for debug or performance. Only useful on POWER9 and above.
>>
>> How much do we want this?
>
> Yes. Thanks for asking. It is a recent need.
>
> Here is some background I should have added in the first place. May be
> for a v2.
>
> We have different ways of doing IPIs on POWER9 and above processors,
> depending on the platform and the underlying hypervisor.
>
> - PowerNV uses global doorbells
>
> - pSeries/KVM uses XIVE only because local doorbells are not
> efficient, as there are emulated in the KVM hypervisor
>
> - pSeries/PowerVM uses XIVE for remote cores and local doorbells for
> threads on same core (SMT4 or 8)
>
> This recent commit 5b06d1679f2f ("powerpc/pseries: Use doorbells even
> if XIVE is available") introduced the optimization for PowerVM and
> commit 107c55005fbd ("powerpc/pseries: Add KVM guest doorbell
> restrictions") restricted the optimization.
>
> We would like a way to turn off the optimization.
Just for test/debug though?
>> Kernel command line args are a bit of a pain, they tend to be poorly
>> tested, because someone has to explicitly enable them at boot time,
>> and then reboot to test the other case.
>
> True. The "xive=off" parameter was poorly tested initially.
>
>> When would we want to enable this?
>
> For bring-up, for debug, for tests. I have been using a similar switch
> to compare the XIVE interrupt controller performance with doorbells on
> POWER9 and P0WER10.
>
> A new need arises with PowerVM, some configurations will behave as KVM
> (local doorbell are unsupported) and the doorbell=off parameter is a
> simple way to handle this case today.
That's the first I've heard of that, what PowerVM configurations have
non-working doorbells?
>> Can we make the kernel smarter about when to use doorbells and make
>> it automated?
>
> I don't think we want to probe all IPI methods to detect how well
> local doorbells are supported on the platform. Do we ?
We don't *want to*, but sounds like we might have to if they are not
working in some configurations as you mentioned above.
cheers
