On Tue, 2007-08-21 at 17:14 +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote: > > It's not a question of indivudual files being copied over - things are > > done differently in arch/powerpc. Things are gradually being ported > > over to arch/powerpc as people get the time - that's why arch/ppc > > isn't gone yet. > > And to be blunt, one of the points of arch/powerpc vs. arch/ppc is > to actually leave behind some stuff. "If no one ports it, no one > wants it".
So am I alone in getting a mixed message from "Linux community" to "embedded community"? On the one hand we have people like GKH telling embedded people to stop being private company/device specific forks but to submit their hardware to the tree where it will be supported "for free" by the kernel hackers, saving us the "chore" of supporting "our" code through all the kernel changes and forever chasing it. On the other hand we have people telling us that because we are too lazy to support "our" code the kernel guys aren't going to pull it forward for us. So in fact people 3rd party people like me are in between real problems, we base our code on say a Freescale chip, who submit to the kernel to save their support issues and we base our code on that. Now, the Freescale guys are too busy porting their "latest" chips across the PPC/Powerpc divide to port the "old" stuff so it gets "left behind". That old stuff is still selling and the people who based code on it had the expectation that the code would continue to be supported. So now I'm being told not only to "port my stuff or lose it" but now also port freescale's stuff or lose it. And then we get beaten up because we "stayed" with "ancient stuff" like 2.6.21!!! Not picking on Freescale, or Segher, just trying to wave the flag, lots of people want it, they are just not all in a position to save it because we "embedded" people are by nature a fractured community of niche players with products that don't turn over with out customers every six months, some people will want to buy a product for years... And yes I do understand the "Linux kernel hackers are nothing more than a group of diverse people from many companies so why is embedded any different" argument, I just don't have an answer right now other than it is. Cheers Phil > > > Segher > > _______________________________________________ > Linuxppc-dev mailing list > Linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org > https://ozlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxppc-dev > > _______________________________________________ Linuxppc-dev mailing list Linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org https://ozlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxppc-dev
