> 
> I'm not saying that the kernel shouldn't initialize the attributes or have a 
> default.
> But it should only set the default when the attribute is initialized (It 
> doesn't
> even matter to me whether it's enabled or disabled).
> 
> It's just there should not be further manipulation from the kernel (e.g.
> device_set_wakeup_enable) afterwards because 1. it's brings inconsistency
> because the function is adopted per driver 2. it's a user preference and
> responsibilty 3. third it prevent udev to apply a rule properly (regression / 
> bug)
> 
> P.S. Alan for my case, I don't need a patch for logitech-dj, I just need to 
> remove
> device_set_enable_wakeup from hid_core.c, then I can enable or disable the
> attribute with a udev rule happily for both devices.
> 

You may apply your choice no matter what the default value is, would you tell us
why you can't do that?

Peter

> ▶ Show quoted text
> On 23 April 2015 at 09:21, Peter Chen <peter.c...@freescale.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > >
> >> > > Oh, okay, I didn't realize that.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is there a reasonable way to enable wakeup only when the driver
> >> > > learns that a keyboard is connected?  Where would the driver do this?
> >> >
> >> > I don't know if the driver ever "knows" this, as you can pair lots
> >> > of different devices to this same receiver.  There's a userspace
> >> > application that lets you manage the device, called "solaar", that
> >> > this option could be changed in.
> >> >
> >> > But really, putting the device to sleep should work for it no
> >> > matter if this is a keyboard or a mouse or a joystick, as the
> >> > wakeup logic is in the receiver, not in the device on the other end of 
> >> > the
> wireless link.
> >> >
> >> > Turning autosuspend works for me for my mouse connected.  It
> >> > doesn't work for one of my "real" USB keyboards when it's connected
> >> > to the machine, which is why I can't enable autosuspend for it, as
> >> > it drives me crazy.
> >> >
> >> > I don't have a keyboard to test the receiver with at the moment, to
> >> > see if autosuspend works for both things connected at the same
> >> > time, or for just the keyboard.
> >>
> >> Tom and I have been talking about enabling wakeup, not autosuspend.
> >> The question is whether or not the default wakeup setting for the
> >> receiver should be "enabled".
> >>
> >> The kernel's policy is that keyboards should be enabled for wakeup, by
> default.
> >> I think that matches most people's expectations.  But when you've got
> >> a "universal" receiver, what then?
> >>
> >> Should it always be enabled by default because a keyboard _might_ be
> >> connected?  Should it be enabled only when a keyboard is detected?
> >> What if multiple devices are connected at the same time?
> >>
> >
> > From my point, the user option should not depend on kernel default value.
> > If the system you build needs some USB devices as system wakeup
> > source, the developers need to make sure the wakeups are enabled
> > before system enters suspend.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >> Shucks -- does the receiver even _work_ as a wakeup device?  It
> >> claims to, but that would require it to remain in wireless contact
> >> with the remote keyboard even while it's supposed to be in a
> >> low-power state, which rather seems to defeat the purpose.
> >>
> >> Alan Stern
> >>
> >> PS: I've got wakeup enabled for the PS/2 keyboard attached to the
> >> computer I'm using now, but it doesn't work.  I have to press the
> >> power button to wake the machine up from suspend.  Probably an issue
> >> in the BIOS or ACPI -- I haven't bothered to try and track it down.
> >>
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