On Sat, 23 Feb 2008, Michael SCHINDLER wrote:

> OK. I thank you both a lot. It seems that I have to accept that the
> device cannot do USB2.0 -- the lsusb dumps were indeed done on the
> same system.

You need to be more careful in your terminology.  The device _does_ 
support USB 2.0 -- it just doesn't support high speed.  The two are not 
the same; the USB 2.0 spec allows devices to run at whatever speed they 
want.

> In the meanwhile, I have tried kernel patch proposed by
> Alan: For the (working) toshiba device, it says
> 
>   ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.4: port 2 status after reset 0x1005
> 
> while for the (non-working) newtech device it is
> 
>   ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.4: port 1 status after reset 0x1801

That proves it.

> The initial problem which made me worry about the device was that it
> could achieve transfer rates up to 100kB/s (unusable for an mp3
> player). In the meantime, I have resolved this issue: The usbmount
> mechanism used the "sync" mount option which slowed down the transfer
> tremendously. Without this option, I can achieve 1.5MB/s with the UHCI
> driver, which is acceptable.

That can't be right.  The maximum possible transfer rate for bulk data
with UHCI is 1216000 bytes per second (about 1.16 MB/s).  In practice 
a more achievable rate is 800 KB/s.

Also, why do you say that 100 KB/s is unusable for an MP3 player?  A 
normal CD player, transferring uncompressed audio, only needs about 172 
KB/s.  Compression by a factor of 2, which is pretty low for most MP3 
files, would suffice.

Alan Stern

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