On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 09:31:23AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Fri 2014-12-12 18:55:30, Brian Norris wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 04:55:35PM -0700, Brian Norris wrote: > > > When CONFIG_PM_DEBUG=y, we provide a sysfs file (/sys/power/pm_test) for > > > selecting one of a few suspend test modes, where rather than entering a > > > full suspend state, the kernel will perform some subset of suspend > > > steps, wait 5 seconds, and then resume back to normal operation. > > > > > > This mode is useful for (among other things) observing the state of the > > > system just before entering a sleep mode, for debugging or analysis > > > purposes. However, a constant 5 second wait is not sufficient for some > > > sorts of analysis; for example, on an SoC, one might want to use > > > external tools to probe the power states of various on-chip controllers > > > or clocks. > > > > > > This patch adds a companion sysfs file (/sys/power/pm_test_delay) that > > > allows user-space to configure how long the system waits in this test > > > state before resuming. It also updates the PM debugging documentation to > > > mention the new file. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Norris <computersforpe...@gmail.com> > > > > What do you think about this patch? It seems there is at least one other > > developer who is independently interested in this. > > 40 lines of code, and new sysfs interface for use by someone who puts > the probes on board, anyway... (so should be able to add the single > mdelay himself).
I heard your complaint the first time: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/9/4/63 And I responded to it already: https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/9/4/494 You did not respond, but Chirantan spoke up saying he wanted such a patch too. He came up with a very similar solution independently: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/15bccc2c63c3475ef61d3187c73ccf1d80b18c7e But since you've decided to make the same comment again, I will detail more of the reasons why I think your suggestion ("go add the mdelay yourself") is off-base. 1. This is behind a debug config option (CONFIG_PM_DEBUG). So what's the problem with improving its usefulness? Non-debug users can easily compile it out if they're worried about 40 lines. 2. The current debug code encodes a particular policy (which kernels generally should not). Is it better if I submit a patch that changes the current magic delay to 60000 milliseconds? What about 1334 milliseconds? 3. To continue your argument: why would I ever try to patch the upstream kernel, if I'm perfectly capable of doing this myself? 4. How does putting probes on a board suddenly qualify someone for patching and rebuilding their kernel? I noted that I have *users* who want to do this. Hence, I'm patching a *user* interface. Brian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/