On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:45:27 +0100 Russell King - ARM Linux <li...@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote: > Let's tell the full story rather than just presenting half of it. > > You indeed wanted to do what you said above, but you also wanted to > completely change the component helpers in a way that I was not happy > with. You wanted to add all sorts of DT specific gunk into the > helpers, which would have tied it to DT. > > While DT is the current thing on ARM, it is /not/ the current thing > everywhere - a point which you failed to grasp.
I don't think that there will ever be a x86 DT. Yes, I did not know what was the DT. For me, when entering in the ARM world, it was a marvellous tool which could have ended in a unique ARM kernel. I'm a dreamer! > You wanted to make the component operations optional, which I pointed > out makes no sense (because then components have no way to know what > happens to their master device - which is /really/ important for DRM.) You did not explain too much that you wanted to keep it for DRM only. > You refused to listen to those concerns, and refused to look at the > patch which I proposed, which did exactly the same as your patch, > while keeping the DRM slave interfaces for tilcdc to use, until they > have a chance to convert over. The change in tilcdc was easy and the code was greatly simplified. > You kept telling me that I had "opened the door" to your changes. I > claimed that your changes abused the code which I had written - a point > which I still maintain to this day. Your code was offering a simple way to synchronize the system initialization without this lot of 'probe defer's. It could have been used so. > You also claimed that deferred probing didn't work. Since the component > helpers were designed with the deferred probing problem in mind at the > time, and include the solution to that problem - which has been well > tested hundreds if not thousands of times by now - and you did not > provide the technical details as to why you thought it didn't work, > there was nothing that could be done to progress that point. AFAIR, you also said that the probe defer was not working. But, thanks again for your component layer: all my init problems are gone, even if there are still some prove defer's... > Moreover, your abuse of the component layer would have made it more > difficult to maintain it into the future - which is a fundamental > point which has to be considered when accepting any patch into the > kernel. If a patch makes some code unable to be maintained, then an > alternative approach has to be found. Since you were not willing to > compromise on finding or considering alternative approaches such as > the one I presented. I don't see what you are talking about. > Since the component layer had had various comments which were in > progress, and your abuse of the component layer would have also > prevented those changes taking place (which are - in part - the set > of component patches which are on the list now) there is no way that > your uncompromising set of patches would be merged - at least not > until you start accepting some of the comments being given to you. > > > Now, the last thing for me is to put the TDA998x codec in the kernel > > (it is also working in an other machine with 2 tda998x's). > > Yes, supporting the I2S connection is something that is need, but we > /also/ need to support SPDIF, and SPDIF is the preferred method on > the Cubox. SPDIF should be used to talk to the TDA998x whenever > possible because it opens up the possibility for sending out > compressed MPEG2 and AC-3 audio streams, thus offloading the decode > of these formats to external hardware. > > This works today, and is a feature that people have been using with > platforms such as xbmc and various other installations on the Cubox. > > Limiting to I2S means that you can't send out these compressed audio > streams. In fact, the Dove manual tells you that you must disable > the I2S playback stream if you're sending non-PCM - non-PCM is only > supported via SPDIF. I don't understand: both I2S and S/PDIF may work in the kirkwood audio subsystem as it is (yes, actually not at the same time, and this is a choice because DPCM does not work for the Cubox). I have the 3 ways in my system: $ cat /proc/asound/pcm 00-00: i2s-i2s-hifi i2s-hifi-0 : : playback 1 00-01: spdif-spdif-hifi spdif-hifi-1 : : playback 1 00-02: spdif-dit-hifi dit-hifi-2 : : playback 1 So, S/PDIF should work, but I don't know it: I have no optical connector. -- Ken ar c'hentaƱ | ** Breizh ha Linux atav! ** Jef | http://moinejf.free.fr/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/