On Jan 12, 2008 10:06 AM, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Unfortunately Ubuntu users [snip] fit this demographic hugely, and > Ubuntu refuses to fix this problem[1], so it's been personally very > vexing, because the users complain to *me*, and I can't fix the problem, > because it's a distribution init script issue. Ubuntu refuses to be power user friendly. They've forgotten the True Meaning (tm) of Linux and try to be Windows-friendly, i.e., No Choices (tm).
> Maybe someday Ubuntu will get this right --- but I'm not counting on it. The alternative CD installer still looks like a semi-dumbed-down debian installer. Hell, even the command-line base install is severely bloated - it's the exact opposite of LFS or gentoo. Still, it's *usable* in comparison to the livecd. > > [1] Something about installer CD's, and not wanting to ask the users > any questions, not even what time zone they are in, or some other > crazyness. I never completely understood the argument and their > design constraints. Idiot friendliness and no exceptions to power users (e.g.., bloated init scripts, UUID fstab). I switched to debian-unstable ages ago *just* because apt is _really_ easy to use. Which I use secondarily to Gentoo, where things Just Work (tm), once you patch the package ebuilds to process your .patch files anyway and, while the packages have *lots* of patches, it doesn't bloat the code *and* you can disable the patches with the "vanilla" USE flag. -- Andrey Vul -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
