On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 05:04:17PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > The whole point of O_APPEND is that the position shouldn't matter. > > And the whole point of "pwrite()" is that you specify a position. > > So the two just do not go together - although we may have legacy > issues, of course.
Our pwrite(2): BUGS POSIX requires that opening a file with the O_APPEND flag should have no effect on the location at which pwrite() writes data. However, on Linux, if a file is opened with O_APPEND, pwrite() appends data to the end of the file, regardless of the value of offset. POSIX pwrite(2): The pwrite() function shall be equivalent to write(), except that it writes into a given position and does not change the file offset (regardless of whether O_APPEND is set). The first three arguments to pwrite() are the same as write() with the addition of a fourth argument offset for the desired position inside the file. An attempt to perform a pwrite() on a file that is incapable of seeking shall result in an error. I don't believe that we could change behaviour of our pwrite(2) without breaking userland, even if we wanted to. It's been that way since 2.1.60 when pwrite() had been first introduced - 23 years ago is more than enough to have it cast in stone. We do allow pwrite(2) with O_APPEND and on such descriptors it acts like write(2) on the same. > Now, splice() is able to do *both* write() and pwrite(), because > unlike pwrite() it doesn't take a "pos" argument, it takes a _pointer_ > to pos. So with a NULL pointer, it's like read/write, and with a > non-NULL pointer it is like pread/pwrite. > > So I do think that "splice with non-NULL off_out and O_APPEND" should > cause an error in general. splice() triggers an error for seekable destination with O_APPEND and with NULL off_out. Same for splice() to socket with fcntl(sock_fd, F_SETFL, O_APPEND); done first. > Honestly, I don't think it's a huge deal. O_APPEND isn't that > interesting, but I do hope that if we allow O_APPEND and a file > position, then O_APPEND always overrides it. It does, when it is allowed.