On 10/2/20 8:39 AM, Van Leeuwen, Pascal wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gre...@linuxfoundation.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 5:13 PM
>> To: Van Leeuwen, Pascal <pvanleeu...@rambus.com>
>> Cc: Torsten Duwe <d...@lst.de>; Theodore Y. Ts'o <ty...@mit.edu>; 
>> linux-cry...@vger.kernel.org; Nicolai Stange
>> <nsta...@suse.de>; LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; Arnd Bergmann 
>> <a...@arndb.de>; Eric W. Biederman
>> <ebied...@xmission.com>; Alexander E. Patrakov <patra...@gmail.com>; Ahmed 
>> S. Darwish <darwish...@gmail.com>; Willy
>> Tarreau <w...@1wt.eu>; Matthew Garrett <mj...@srcf.ucam.org>; Vito Caputo 
>> <vcap...@pengaru.com>; Andreas Dilger
>> <adilger.ker...@dilger.ca>; Jan Kara <j...@suse.cz>; Ray Strode 
>> <rstr...@redhat.com>; William Jon McCann <mcc...@jhu.edu>;
>> zhangjs <zach...@baishancloud.com>; Andy Lutomirski <l...@kernel.org>; 
>> Florian Weimer <fwei...@redhat.com>; Lennart
>> Poettering <mzxre...@0pointer.de>; Peter Matthias 
>> <matthias.pe...@bsi.bund.de>; Marcelo Henrique Cerri
>> <marcelo.ce...@canonical.com>; Neil Horman <nhor...@redhat.com>; Randy 
>> Dunlap <rdun...@infradead.org>; Julia Lawall
>> <julia.law...@inria.fr>; Dan Carpenter <dan.carpen...@oracle.com>; Andy Lavr 
>> <andy.l...@gmail.com>; Eric Biggers
>> <ebigg...@kernel.org>; Jason A. Donenfeld <ja...@zx2c4.com>; Stephan Müller 
>> <smuel...@chronox.de>; Petr Tesarik
>> <ptesa...@suse.cz>
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION PATCH 00/41] random: possible ways towards NIST 
>> SP800-90B compliance
>>
>> <<< External Email >>>
>> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 02:34:44PM +0000, Van Leeuwen, Pascal wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gre...@linuxfoundation.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 4:04 PM
>>>> To: Van Leeuwen, Pascal <pvanleeu...@rambus.com>
>>>> Cc: Torsten Duwe <d...@lst.de>; Theodore Y. Ts'o <ty...@mit.edu>; 
>>>> linux-cry...@vger.kernel.org; Nicolai Stange
>>>> <nsta...@suse.de>; LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>; Arnd Bergmann 
>>>> <a...@arndb.de>; Eric W. Biederman
>>>> <ebied...@xmission.com>; Alexander E. Patrakov <patra...@gmail.com>; Ahmed 
>>>> S. Darwish <darwish...@gmail.com>; Willy
>>>> Tarreau <w...@1wt.eu>; Matthew Garrett <mj...@srcf.ucam.org>; Vito Caputo 
>>>> <vcap...@pengaru.com>; Andreas Dilger
>>>> <adilger.ker...@dilger.ca>; Jan Kara <j...@suse.cz>; Ray Strode 
>>>> <rstr...@redhat.com>; William Jon McCann
>> <mcc...@jhu.edu>;
>>>> zhangjs <zach...@baishancloud.com>; Andy Lutomirski <l...@kernel.org>; 
>>>> Florian Weimer <fwei...@redhat.com>; Lennart
>>>> Poettering <mzxre...@0pointer.de>; Peter Matthias 
>>>> <matthias.pe...@bsi.bund.de>; Marcelo Henrique Cerri
>>>> <marcelo.ce...@canonical.com>; Neil Horman <nhor...@redhat.com>; Randy 
>>>> Dunlap <rdun...@infradead.org>; Julia Lawall
>>>> <julia.law...@inria.fr>; Dan Carpenter <dan.carpen...@oracle.com>; Andy 
>>>> Lavr <andy.l...@gmail.com>; Eric Biggers
>>>> <ebigg...@kernel.org>; Jason A. Donenfeld <ja...@zx2c4.com>; Stephan 
>>>> Müller <smuel...@chronox.de>; Petr Tesarik
>>>> <ptesa...@suse.cz>
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION PATCH 00/41] random: possible ways towards NIST 
>>>> SP800-90B compliance
>>>>
>>>> <<< External Email >>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 01:35:18PM +0000, Van Leeuwen, Pascal wrote:
>>>>> ** This message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended 
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>>>> As per my legal department requests, this is now ignored and deleted on
>>>> my system...
>>>>
>>>> Hint, it's not a valid footer for public mailing lists...
>>>>
>>>> greg k-h
>>> It's automatically added by our company mail server ... not something I can 
>>> control at all :-(
>>
>> Then your company can not contribute in Linux kernel development, as
>> this is obviously not allowed by such a footer.
>>
> Interesting, this has never been raised as a problem until today ...
> Going back through my mail archive, it looks like they started automatically 
> adding that some
> 3 months ago. Not that they informed anyone about that, it just silently 
> happened.
> 
>> Please work with your IT and legal department to fix this.
>>
> Eh ... Greg ... that's not how that works in the real world. In the real 
> world, legal and IT lay
> down the law and you just comply with that (or hack your way around it, if 
> you can ;-).

That's how it worked at $big_companies that I have worked at.

If it's a company/business requirement that you do Linux kernel development 
work, (is it?)
then they should make that possible on internal systems or give you access to
external email server(s).

> I'm already fighting the good fight trying to keep control of my development 
> machines
> because IT would just love to get rid of those (since not under IT control 
> .... oh dear ...)
> And obviously, you cannot do kernel development on a machine without root 
> access.
> It's annoying enough already to require IT support to provide explicit 
> permission to open
> the task manager on my own company laptop ... grmbl.
> 
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> greg k-h
> 
> Regards,
> Pascal van Leeuwen
> Silicon IP Architect Multi-Protocol Engines, Rambus Security
> Rambus ROTW Holding BV
> +31-73 6581953
> 
> Note: The Inside Secure/Verimatrix Silicon IP team was recently acquired by 
> Rambus.
> Please be so kind to update your e-mail address book with my new e-mail 
> address.
> 
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~Randy

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