On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Steven N. Hirsch wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Helge Hafting wrote:
> 
> > Nicolas Noble wrote:
> > [...]
> > As others have told already, this is the ECN problem.
> > 
> > > I noticed the same bug. This is very weired, I can send a list of sites
> > > which I can't connect anymore. 
> > 
> > You have a list?  Send all of them a message stating that they ought
> > to upgrade their firewalls which cause this problem.  Or they
> > will loose customers/visitors.  Cisco already have an upgrade for them,
> > so fixing is dead easy, and they can then boast compatibility with
> > the latest internet standards.  
> > 
> > If they don't care about linux users, tell them that windows eventually
> > will use ECN too.  They definitely don't want to have a ECN problem when
> > that happens.
> 
> After upgrading to kernel 2.4.0, I found myself unable to retrieve mail
> from Adelphia's (2-way cable ISP) POP server.  It took several days to
> figure out that _one_ of their routers was configured to block ECN.  After
> bringing this to the attention of their network engineers, I was informed
> that their policy prohibits making any router changes on the basis of one
> trouble report.  The person I spoke with did NOT try to defend their
> setup, but it was made clear that they'll do nothing until Windows breaks.
> 
> If I were packaging a Linux distribution, I'd be sure to have ECN disabled
> by default, FWIW.
> 

It's not a matter of changing network setup... if those are cisco routers
there are patches to fix the bugs.

Here is what little info I have on the topic (shamelessly ripped from an
earlier email by "Dax Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" )


Here is the fix for PIX:
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/Bugtool/onebug.pl?bugid=CSCds23698

    Bud ID:        CSCds23698
    Headline:      PIX sends RSET in response to tcp connections with ECN
 bits set
    Product:       PIX
    Component:     fw
    Severity:      2            Status:           R [Resolved]
    Version Found: 5.1(1)       Fixed-in Version: 5.1(2.206) 5.1(2.207)
 5.2(1.200)

Here is the fix for Local Director:
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/Support/Bugtool/onebug.pl?bugid=CSCds40921

Bug Id : CSCds40921
 Headline:  LD rejects syn with reserved bits set in flags field of TCP
hdr
 Product:  ld
 Component: rotor
 Severity: 3                     Status:        R [Resolved]
 Version Found: 3.3(3)           Fixed-in Version: 3.3.3.107


--
Gerhard Mack

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<>< As a computer I find your faith in technology amusing.



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