On Tuesday 05 Mar 2019 at 18:02:25 (+0100), Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> But that 128 needs to be compared to
>
> (SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE * cpuinfo.min_freq) / cpuinfo.max_freq
>
> so with SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE equal to 1024 this means max_freq 8x
> higher than min_freq. That is not totally unreasonable IMO and
> because sg_cpu->iowait_boost grows exponentially, the difference
> between 8x and, say, 4x is one iteration.
>
> > The first steps will all be below the min freq, so they'll just be
> > transparent, while right now the iowait boost kicks in much faster :/
>
> There can be one iteration of a difference this way or that way AFAICS
> and I'm not even sure how much of a performance difference that makes
> in practice.
Yeah I don't expect that to have a huge impact TBH but it'd be nice to
actually get numbers to verify that, that's all I'm saying :-)
You have 'funny' platforms like Juno r0 out there where the min/max
frequencies are 450MHz/850Mhz. In this case, starting from 128 you'll
need 3 wake-ups to reach what is currently the starting point. I'm not
sure if the impact is visible or not, but it's worth checking.
> OTOH I fundamentally don't see why the iowait boost should ramp up
> faster on CPUs having a higher max_freq to min_freq ratio. Say you
> have two platforms, both with max_freq of 2 GHz and with min_freq
> equal to 250 MHz and 500 MHz, respectively. The ratios in question
> will be 8 and 4 then, so the first one will reliably react 50% slower
> to iowait than the second one for no particular reason at all.
>
> > OTOH, you also have platforms like the recent Snapdragons with 30+ OPPs,
> > and for them starting at 128 will speed things up.
> >
> > So maybe what you want is to start at max(min, 128) ?
>
> That's not just min, though, or is it?
I'm not sure to get the question, so just to make sure it's clearer, I
was suggesting to do something along the lines of:
sg_cpu->min = max(min_freq * 1024 / max_freq, 128);
That basically just prevents you from starting too low -- some boards,
unlike juno, have tons of OPPs on the lower end of the curve so these
might benefit from getting a higher starting point. But then perhaps
this is in fact a good illustration of the issue of having different
ramp-up speeds depending on the min_freq so ... :-)
Thanks,
Quentin
