On Friday 29 June 2007, Anton Petrusevich wrote: > On Friday 29 June 2007 12:30:54 Florian Schmidt wrote: > > Sadly it seems pretty much everyone, especially closed source apps get > > this wrong (but to be fair: loads of open source software gets it wrong, > > too, ekiga for example). > > Isn't that because there's a perferct documentation for programming ALSA > but authors of those apps can't read?
No, like i said, the docs are unclear on these issues :) That's why so many people get it wrong. > But in real life I have to use flashplayer, for example. Yes, in these cases flashplayer should use either the default pcm device [which the user can then tweak to his liking] or provide some means to configure it. for example via a dotfile in the user's homedir. This is not ALSA's fault. > I am with Linux since 1997, I know bunch of them. I used to use XEmacs, but > now I prefer VIM. But I am not a .asoundrc programmer, I want to be just a > user. I agree that it would be nice to have a tool to select the default device in ALSA. > > But skype is a piece of crap anyways. It also doesn't get any sounds out > > of my other [non ice1712] card. Neither in OSS nor in ALSA mode. Not a > > beep. And yeah, the device is available [and even has hardware > > multiplexing].. > > > > But 99.9% of problems people have with ALSA are due to badly coded apps.. > > "Those apps are crap and ALSA is perfect". I hoped some ALSA-developers > would think of improving usability of ALSA, or I would not talk here. ALSA must be improved, too. But that doesn't change a thing about these apps misusing the ALSA API and people blaming ALSA lateron. Which is wrong. > It's good that people are not thinking that ALSA is already perfect, it > leaves us (me) a hope it will be improved. I don't think any serious person believes that ALSA is perfect :) Regards, Flo -- Palimm Palimm! http://tapas.affenbande.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
