On 4/29/07, Linus Torvalds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > We are already quite good at ignoring bug reports that come through > linux-kernel, and it's an _advantage_ of the kernel Bugzilla to see more > than 1600 open bugs because this tells how bad we are at handling bugs. No, it just shows that bugzilla doesn't matter for most of the kernel. Don't say that "bugzilla tells how bad we are at handling bugs". It tells how bad *bugzilla* is for handling bugs, nothing more.
I totally disagree here, bugzilla is a very good tool. If someone is too lazy to look at it it's his problem. Kernel Janitors can pick out some bugs which aren't addressed by anyone or got left behind. I also found some bugs there which could have been solved by anyone here, the matter is just that many people aren't interested in mainly bug fixing and many also work on different other topics here. How else should bugs get handled, sending them to the lkml? I'm 100% sure some bugreports will also get lost then, but on the lkml they'll very likely remain lost whereas in the bugzilla they'll remain as open.
Trying to play politics by pointing to bugzilla is pointless. Bugzilla is used for a few subsystems (ACPI seems to use it actively, for example), but I doubt most developers use it.
as for the em28xx I actively use it, but I also set up a mailinglist etc. and there are many supporters already...
Would be be good to have a better bug-tracking setup? Yes. But I think it takes man-power, and it would take something *fundamentally* better than bugzilla.
what are your suggestions to improve a bugreporting tool, I'm very sure that many people, especially people who want to get into existing projects here, would love to contribute.
Maybe the new "http://kernelnewbies.org/known_regressions"; thing will evolve to something worth tracking. Right now, bugzilla isn't it (although it can be a useful tracking place for individual bugs, *once* you've found and gotten the right developer involved - but that's a huge step that bugzilla generally does *not* do for us).
I'd say this is a personal opinion, some people will get along with it and some of them will not... Markus - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
