On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:47:11PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 01:01:22PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > Yeah, that's right, you can't use the STXR status flag to create control > > dependencies. > > Just for my elucidation; you can't use it to create a control dependency > on the store, but you can use it to create a control dependency on the > corresponding load, right?
Hmm, sort of, but I'd say that the reads are really ordered due to read-after-read ordering in that case. Control dependencies to loads don't give you order. > Now, IIRC, we've defined control dependencies as being LOAD->STORE > ordering, so in that respect nothing is lost. But maybe we should > explicitly mention that if the LOAD is part of an (otherwise) atomic RmW > the STORE is not constrained. I could well be misreading your suggestion, but it feels like that's too weak. You can definitely still have control dependencies off the LL part of the LL/SC pair, just not off the SC part. E.g. this version of LB is forbidden on arm64: P0: if (atomic_inc_return_relaxed(&x) == 2) atomic_set(&y, 1); P1: if (atomic_inc_return_relaxed(&y) == 2) atomic_set(&x, 1); Perhaps when you say "the STORE", you mean the store in the atomic RmW, rather than the store in the LOAD->STORE control dependency? Will