I've talked to the highest up network engineers at Netvision about >30%
packet loss on their vl100 router and I've consistently received the "It's
normal" answer. They claim it's part of their anti-Denial-Of-Service system.
I see it as 30% of my company's monthly fee down the drain.

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:57 PM, dani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Dotan,
>
> Our servers support both pptp and l2tp, which you can use directly from
> Linux.
>
> If you have service problems while connected to the Technion, why don't you
> open an helpdesk case?
>
> Dani
>
>
>
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>  2008/7/4 sara fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>>
>>> Technion web site doesn't support ping not in and not out. So don't be
>>> surprised if you get the ???.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, but it supports http traffic and that often goes very slow.
>> Amazingly, it does so at the same time as Slashdot and Google. And no
>> one else on the interwebs noticed except me.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Try a ftp transfer from technion and see the speed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The problem is intermittent.
>>
>>
>>
>>> About the router, try the same thing without router. If the problem
>>> persists, you can tell them.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I cannot connect with Linux without a router because their 'dialer'
>> only runs on Windows.
>>
>>
>>
>>> For
>>> http://dotancohen.com/images/examples/bezeq.html
>>>  I can't see anything written. It's 1k. I saw the images from the
>>> examples
>>> directory.
>>> I saw similar patterns with bezeqint in my neighborhood.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So, the mtr results are normal, or we both are getting bad service?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Only a couple of the support people know what is mtr. From all my talks
>>> with
>>> support at 012, only 1 knew about mtr.  You need to reach to higher
>>> levels
>>> of support.  At 012 it's called network department. They support if you
>>> have
>>> few pc at home. Their level is higher than others who read from the page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> In Hebrew would that be "מחלקת הרשת"?
>>
>>
>>
>>> My brother has windows, when he had problems with internet, they had the
>>> famous sentence "Something on your pc is blocking. go to restore. If that
>>> doesn't help, format the hd." And you know what else, they told him to
>>> use
>>> the microsoft built in firewall, nothing else.
>>>
>>> Here are some dns lists of all isp in israel
>>> http://www.petri.co.il/dns_ip_addresses_for_israeli_isps_he.htm
>>> try this also https://www.opendns.com/start
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I had considered opendns. Is it recommended? Was Israeli DNS _is_
>> recommended? Thanks.
>>
>> Dotan Cohen
>>
>> http://what-is-what.com
>> http://gibberish.co.il
>> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
>>
>> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
>> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>
>>
>
>
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