On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Arie Skliarouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Two questions:
> >
> > 1. Is this correct (that vserver will run more efficiently in that
> situation)?
>
> Memory will be used more effectively, as free memory is shared. In case
> vservers use a shared storage (such as /home over here), memory cache for
> the storage blocks would get shared as well.

Thanks. That's what I suspected. In my particular setup each guests
uses its own LV to run pretty much separate software so apart from
kernel and maybe basic binaries there might not be  much sharing going
on anyway.

>
>
> > 2. How does the vserver support in CentOS 5.1 compares to Xen?
>
> http://linux-vserver.org is fragile in sense of configuration. One must be
> very careful on network settings, so that no process would listen on 0.0.0.0
> IP number, as this would block the particular port for all vservers.
> Loopback interface is tricky as well. This is from my experience with 2
> servers with 12 vservers on them.

Yes, I noticed this in their FAQ.

Also their answer to the "Why isn't there a device /dev/xyz within a
guest?" question in the FAQ (http://tinyurl.com/4y8mhc) isn't
encouraging for anyone concerned about enough segregation between the
guests. Even though I control all software on the physical server I'd
rather try to have better separation separate among the guests.

>
> Coupled with the fact that there was no stable release since kernel 2.6.22,
> I would recommend to avoid the vserver technology for the time being.

Thanks for the input from your personal experience, it's very useful
and saved me time of trying to figure this out by myself.

>
> > I mean - with Xen it's just a matter of installing a couple of packages
> and
> > off you go (especially now that the learning curve is mostly behind
> > me), with vserver - I can't even find a package which mentions this
> > string in its name or description ("yum search vserver"). So is it
> > worth the hassle?
>
> On debian the packages are in official repository.

I know. And it's probably as simple as "aptitutde install
..xen-vserver...". But I'm restricted to CentOS and being aware (but
not familiar) with the Debian packages triggered my question about
CentOS.

Cheers,

--Amos

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