Tzahi,
When I first started looking for work, I was interested in networking and Linux. I had been out of the workforce for 5 years (since coming to Israel, making Aliyah and spending some time in Yeshivah). I was able to prove to an employer that I could do the networking or at least I knew what I was doing at a basic level and the details I was able to learn. This was partially because of the way they interviewed me (where they presented a problem and I had to tell them what I would do). Once I was at the position for a while, I was able to suggest implementing some things in Linux. Now we have a complete monitoring system which is open source (Nagios), I am backing up all the network equipment with open source (Rancid), we are investigating moving some phone functions to open source (Asterisk / OpenSER), and we are doing some floors' DHCP using open source (ISC DHCP Server). And all these running on Linux. By taking an OK job, and growing into it, you gain the ability to influence some decisions. By starting small (with a sing Linux Server for an obscure requirement) and then moving to more things, the employers will see the advantage of Linux and will start asking if Linux and/or Open Source is a viable solution for other upcoming projects. Shlomo --- Tzahi Fadida <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:24, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2007, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:27:00 +0200 > > > From: Tzahi Fadida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: IL Linux <linux-il@linux.org.il> > > > Subject: Big Off-Topic: Finding a linux related job. > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I contemplated whether to send this email to this list and i usually > > > would not be so public about this kind of thing, however, i am a bit at a > > > loss and in need of some tips so i hope you'd bear with me. > > > I have recently finished my MSc studies and wanted to find a linux > > > related job. Not necessarily kernel hacking/device drivers though this is > > > what most attracts. I can say without a doubt that it is difficult to > > > convince potential employers of your capabilities without a proven > > > working experience. It is the old chicken and the egg problem. I would > > > have thought that 3 separate degrees and my 2 years experience with > > > PostgreSQL internals would have some leverage, however, i came to believe > > > that this is a myth. Usually it goes like this, i get 2-3 professional > > > interviews and then get a negative answer. I get the feeling these big > > > companies i go to, just fill their interview quotas and in the end takes > > > people with the most working experience. Especially in the north, where > > > there are something like 30 people contending per job. > > > Can someone throw some tips as to how i should proceed? > > > 10x. > > > > > > P.s.: As to some who would have paranoid thoughts that this is self > > > advertising, let me assure you that you are only partly correct, but > > > there is no other way to ask the question. So i apologize in advance for > > > that part. > > > > 1. As an interviewer in the north (how uniform are those people?) I do not > > prefer experience only. Zest, intelligence, flexibility and the > > ability to learn on your own count a lot as well. > > Obviously, i can't talk about all possible jobs in the north, i only recounted > my experience. > > > > > 2.I see Aviram has not answered yet, so I can remind you of his regular > > answer: go get some proven experience working on a big FOSS project. > > That is what i tried to do. To date, the companies i went save one (which > surprisingly did not give me a negative answer, but rather before the second > interview informed me that the position has been filled), did not care about > FOSS projects. 99% did not even know what PostgreSQL is, even though some > were in the storage business which is not necessarily related but should at > least be acknowledged. Starting from scratch again now in another FOSS > project, just to maybe get a job a year from now is problematic from obvious > reasons. I think that at some point the employer needs to give you a chance. > > > > > Orna. > > -- > > Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda http://ladypine.org/ > > ICQ: 348759096 > > > > > > ================================================================= > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > Regards, > ��������Tzahi. > -- > Tzahi Fadida > Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info > WARNING TO SPAMMERS: �see at > http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html > > ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
