It does not matter. It is a general license as the GPL is. If MS says at their download site that a product is covered by this license( ies4linux automatically download IE from there), it is covered by such license. No matter if the product is explicitly or implicitly included into the license as the GPL does not include the terms¨ GNU/ Linux¨ or¨ Linux¨). But I think that the real point is that The Israeli government in¨ association¨ with Microsoft if forcing its citizens to purchase or use a Microsoft´s license for accessing its websites. I can resume the only ways for regular citizens to use IE as pay for a MS license, pay for a Mac, pay for an internet cafe, find somebody that will pay for you the previous alternatives or go to a public library with its limitations. i think that it is unfair and maybe ilegal, existing other free alternatives that even showed to be superior in many technical aspects.
J El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 02:20 -0700, Michael Jaffe escribió: > --0-1301579810-1158225621=:47990 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Thanks, Julian and Josh. > > Note that IE is *not* explicitly mentioned by name in the entire document. > It is *implicitly* referenced as an Operating System (OS) component. Given > the anti-trust case, Microsoft wouldn't want to go back to court arguing that > IE is an Operating System component. Would you call it an OS component? Is > it necessary for the operation of the rest of the OS? Can it be uninstalled > without compromising system operation? Isn't it an application? > > Then again, if your philosophy is that software can only be used with the > explicit consent of the IP owner then it's a moot point. I think that > there's quite a bit of gray here, though. Microsoft's tendency to lock up > markets, especially the Israeli market, can't be without its occasonal double > edges. ;-) > > Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 01:20 -0700, > Michael Jaffe escribiן½: > > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > Julian Daich wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows (sic) license to > > legally use IE. > > Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft > > argued that in its antitrust court case, when it stated that it had not > > forced Windows users to utilize only IE, that it had enabled competing > > products/browsers. Does it say anywhere in IE's license that it's use is > > allowed only within MS Windows? > Check at the IE license( aka EULA). > http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/ieplatform/ie/license.txt > <ן½IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY "OS PRODUCT" (MICROSOFT > WINDOWS > 95, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 98, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT WORKSTATION 4.0, MICROSOFT > WINDOWS NT SERVER 4.0, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER, ENTERPRISE EDITION 4.0 OR > MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER 4.0, TERMINAL SERVER EDITION), YOU ARE NOT > AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL, COPY, OR OTHERWISE USE THE OS COMPONENTS AND YOU HAVE > NO RIGHTS UNDER THIS SUPPLEMENTAL EULA.ן½ > > J > > > > > > > ==================================== > > J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D. > > EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > PHONE: +972 4 6398160 > > FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160 > > FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486 > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906 > > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:By the way, you will need a MS > > Winows (sic) license to legally use IE. > Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft > argued that in its antitrust court case, when it stated that it had not > forced Windows users to utilize only IE, that it had enabled competing > products/browsers. Does it say anywhere in IE's license that it's use is > allowed only within MS Windows? > > > ==================================== > J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D. > EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PHONE: +972 4 6398160 > FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160 > FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486 > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail. > > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906-- > > > > ================================================================= > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Julian Daich > > > > > ==================================== > J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D. > EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PHONE: +972 4 6398160 > FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160 > FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486 > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > --0-1301579810-1158225621=:47990 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Thanks, Julian and Josh.<br><br>Note that IE is *not* explicitly mentioned by > name in the entire document. It is *implicitly* referenced as an > Operating System (OS) component. Given the anti-trust case, Microsoft > wouldn't want to go back to court arguing that IE is an Operating System > component. Would you call it an OS component? Is it necessary for > the operation of the rest of the OS? Can it be uninstalled without > compromising system operation? Isn't it an application?<br><br>Then > again, if your philosophy is that software can only be used with the explicit > consent of the IP owner then it's a moot point. I think that there's > quite a bit of gray here, though. Microsoft's tendency to lock up > markets, especially the Israeli market, can't be without its occasonal double > edges. ;-)<br><br><b><i>Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></i></b> > wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, > 255); > margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> El jue, 14-09-2006 a las 01:20 -0700, > Michael Jaffe escribiן½:<br>> --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906<br>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1<br>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit<br>> <br>> Julian Daich <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> wrote:By the way, you will need a MS Winows (sic) license to > legally use IE.<br>> Why? I don't think IE is an integral part of > Windows. I think Microsoft argued that in its antitrust court case, when it > stated that it had not forced Windows users to utilize only IE, that it had > enabled competing products/browsers. Does it say anywhere in IE's license > that it's use is allowed only within MS Windows?<br>Check at the IE license( > aka > EULA).<br>http://www.microsoft.com/msdownload/ieplatform/ie/license.txt<br><br>ן½IF > YOU DO NOT HAVE A VALID EULA FOR ANY "OS PRODUCT" (MICROSOFT<br>WINDOWS > <br>95, MICROSOFT WINDOWS 98, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT WORKSTATION 4.0, MICROSOFT > <br>WINDOWS NT > SERVER 4.0, MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER, ENTERPRISE EDITION 4.0 OR > <br>MICROSOFT WINDOWS NT SERVER 4.0, TERMINAL SERVER EDITION), YOU ARE NOT > <br>AUTHORIZED TO INSTALL, COPY, OR OTHERWISE USE THE OS COMPONENTS AND YOU > HAVE <br>NO RIGHTS UNDER THIS SUPPLEMENTAL > EULA.ן½<br><br>J<br><br><br><br>> <br>> > ====================================<br>> J. Michael Jaffe, Ph.D.<br>> > EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> PHONE: +972 4 6398160<br>> FAX (ISRAEL): > +972 153 4 6398160<br>> FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486<br>> <br>> > ---------------------------------<br>> Do you Yahoo!?<br>> Get on > board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.<br>> > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906<br>> Content-Type: text/html; > charset=iso-8859-1<br>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit<br>> <br>> > <b><i>Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]></i></b> wrote:</[EMAIL > PROTECTED]><blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, > 16, 255); > margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">By the way, you will need a MS Winows > (sic) license to legally use IE.<br></blockquote>Why? I don't think IE > is an integral part of Windows. I think Microsoft argued that in its > antitrust court case, when it stated that it had not forced Windows users to > utilize only IE, that it had enabled competing products/browsers. Does > it say anywhere in IE's license that it's use is allowed only within MS > Windows?<br><br><br>====================================<br>J. Michael Jaffe, > Ph.D.<br>EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>PHONE: +972 4 6398160<br>FAX (ISRAEL): > +972 153 4 6398160<br>FAX (US): 1-419-781-4486<div> <br>> </div><hr > size="1">Do you Yahoo!?<br> <br>> Get on board. <a > href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40791/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta";>You're > invited</a> to try the new Yahoo! Mail.<br>> > --0-1273685446-1158222022=:23906--<br>> <br>> > =================================================================<br>> To > unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with<br>> the word > "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command<br>> echo > unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>> <br>-- <br>Julian Daich <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]><br><br></[EMAIL > PROTECTED]></blockquote><br><BR><BR>====================================<br>J. > Michael Jaffe, Ph.D.<br>EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br>PHONE: +972 4 > 6398160<br>FAX (ISRAEL): +972 153 4 6398160<br>FAX (US): > 1-419-781-4486<p>  > <hr size=1>Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. <a > href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42974/*http://www.yahoo.com/preview";> Check > it out.</a> > > --0-1301579810-1158225621=:47990-- > > ================================================================= > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Julian Daich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
