On 5/9/05, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 06:40:55PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > > > systems). But for example, if you browse the web with a vulnerable > > > browser, > > > that allows malicious sites to execute code on your machine, then all the > > > firewalls in the world won't prevent your machine from getting infected > > > by a > > > trojan. > > > > Actually current firewalls/proxies and routing boxes DO scan for viruses and > > melicious code while you surf as well. Dig the network for specific > > examples, > > I can't remember them off the top of my head. > > Not the cheaper ones. Such scans take CPU and memory, and lower-end > boxes don't have of those to spare.
I was reffering to dedicated boxes, and the "..all the firewalls in the world won't prevent your machine from getting infected..." part in your quote above. > > > But my mother won't appreciate command-line at all (and so would I, if I'll > > have > > to explain to her what to do with it over the phone). > > Slightly OT: > > Actually some commands are quite useful for phone support. The problem > is to get exactly the right information with the user having to type as > little as possible. > > Consider the remote user as your interface to the system you're trying > to fix. It is a sort of "interactive" terminal with a very long delay. > So you need a set of scripts that already do most of the filtering. My mome gets stressed and confused from reading financial material in Hebrew, or even deciding what I mean by "window title" - "that blue line?" or "oh, I closed the Internet now... (apparently after de-minimizing the IE window) ah! here it is, suddenly it's here again!" And you expect her to be able to type shell commands (even simple script names) and read me their output? I don't. (my mom is over 70 and practically used a computer in earnest for the last 6 or so months, just to give perspective). > > > Yes, that's expose. And these are not just screen-shots but live, "zoomed > > out" > > application windows. Extremly neat and easy to stay oriented. > > There is skippy for X11 which tries to simulate it, works so-so. > > Rant: > > But for that to work well with Linux you currently need non-free display > drivers. Non-free: not part of the common codebase easily customized by > distros. It worked ok on my pure-debian Sarge X11 (when I tested it a month ago), and its docs say that with the later Xorg extensions it can also simulate the "live" part of the "zoomed out" windows. I admit that I'm not deep into the latest state of X11 technology, but what am I missing? Cheers, --Amos ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
