On Tuesday 10 May 2005 10:03, you wrote:
> >Also, if he has problem, can you help him by phone? Did you try to explein
> >someone to vi a file and edit it? I tried it with my sister
>
> I agree that vi is not a sympathetic editor (I don't know if the tern
> editor is good for it; I would call it an
> editing tool).
I beg to differ. vi and especially vim/gvim are very good editors, and very
convenient. vi has a lot of keystroke commands and takes time to get used it,
but you can edit files very quickly and conviently after you do. With gvim
with certain configurations, even people who are used to Windows-based
editors can feel at home. (that's what I use). I once witnessed Guy Keren
editing in vi, and he could do amazing text transformations incredibly
quickly. I'm not yet as fluent in vi as he is, but I can say that the vi
philosophy is incredibly convenient. If you don't know vim or Emacs yet, it
would be a good investment to learn one.
> However, why VI? I try to avoid using VI on linux.
> There are a plenty of editors running under XWindows: Kate,gedit,JEdit,...
NEdit is also nice. The slides covering basic vi use have been removed from
recent "Welcome to Linuxes" due to the fact that it seems knowing vi has
become less and less important. Kfir, unless X-windows is not working, there
is no need to instruct people how to use vi. And even in console, it may be
more beneficial to introduce people to joe or GNU nano.
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://www.shlomifish.org/
Hacker sees bug. Hacker fixes bug.
=================================================================
To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command
echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
