On 4/29/05, guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Gil Freund wrote:
> 
> > On 29 Apr 2005 10:38:31 +0000, Oleg Goldshmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Muli Ben-Yehuda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > What is GSX's architecture?
> > >
> > > GSX Server runs as an application in the host OS, ESX runs on baare
> > > metal.
> >
> > Not quite. ESX uses a highly customized RedHat distribution.
> 
> perhaps you didn't dig into the thing - it uses the linux system as a
> console OS, not as a host OS. the guest machines do not run on top of this
> linux system at all. all the device drivers that are useable by the guest
> machines were modified - if you compile and load a normal driver, it will
> be accessible by the linux console machine, but it cannot be accessed by
> the guest machines.
> 
> > While
> > highly optimized, it is still a Linux distribution (such as IPcop or
> > Sbox, as opposed to Network Appliance's OS)
> > The ESX application is has several functional diffarences from the GSX
> > application
> > 64 CPUs (as apposed to 8 or 16 on GSX)
> > vMotion (moving VMs between hosts on the fly, Xen also has this capability)
> > Memory over-committing (allowing to set more memory to Guests then if
> > physically available)
> >
> > All of this does not ESX would or should provide better performance or
> > stability then GSX, in the same sense that NetApp provides better
> > network storage then a vanilla NFS/SAMBA machine would.
> 
> but contrariwise, ESX is supposed to give better performance for the guest
> machines - please check your claims before spreading this info...

Please read again. I am not spreading info, I am requesting info. 
As VMware/EMC licencing prohibit benchmark publications, nor do they
provide such information, I am trying to find what the underlining
differences are.

Consider, if you will, the differences between MS-Exchange standard
and enterprise additions. It is the same application with hard coded
limits in the standard addition. I.e. it is a marketing and not a
technical issue.
Data-Ontap (netapp) has all functionality built into the core OS, it
only has to be licences. Again, a marketing decision.

> 
> note: i didn't deal with GSX other then reading about it. i did, however,
> had the "pleasure" of trying to disect ESX for some purpose, and was quite
> surprised to find how it works.

If I understand you correctly, then ESX is similar to XEN in the sence
that there is another Kernel running in ring 0 and that the console OS
is a privileged (Dom0 in XEN talk) guest.
GSX would then be closer in concept to UML or QEMU.

> 
> --
> guy
> 
> "For world domination - press 1,
>  or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
>

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