On 4/30/05, guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2005, Gil Freund wrote:
> 
> > On 4/29/05, guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
[snip]
> 
> consider the differences between suzuky swift and suzuky baleno. the swift
> has all the functionality of the baleno - they both have 4 wheels, an
> engine, a roof, 4 doors... oops, the swift actually has 5 doors - so it's
> better, isn't it? again, a marketing decision ;)

This is a great analogy. 4 vs. 5 door is has a difference in
functionally and engineering (not to mention the fact that 5 door
models also have a rear windshield wiper...)

> 
> > > note: i didn't deal with GSX other thenreading about it. i did, however,
> > > had the "pleasure" of trying to disect ESX for some purpose, and was quite
> > > surprised to find how it works.
> >
> > If I understand you correctly, then ESX is similar to XEN in the sence
> > that there is another Kernel running in ring 0 and that the console OS
> > is a privileged (Dom0 in XEN talk) guest.
> > GSX would then be closer in concept to UML or QEMU.
> 
> the console OS is a console OS, not a guest OS. it gets access to the
> hardware via a completely different route. how exactly? that's beyond me.
> 
> whether ESX works as XEN or not - i can only guess.
> 
> you can download an evaluation version of ESX (you might need to talk to
> vmware to get an eval key). you can also scan vmwre's web site for the
> open-source part of their system (i.e. the changes they made to the linux
> kernel and to various applications such as apache) and through that gain
> some understanding about the internal workings. good luck finding the URL
> - it's "hidden" in the README file you get with the ESX instalation CD ;)
> 
> --
> guy
> 
> "For world domination - press 1,
>  or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy
>

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