On Sunday 09 January 2005 15:29, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:43:13PM +0200, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > > So what you need is an CAM with the right card (the one that Yes gave > > you) to decrypt the stream. I've heared some unclear rumour that the Yes > > STB has a propritery CAM by NDS, that is - you can't take the smarty > > card and put it in a "regular" CAM and expect it to work but I'm not > > sured I heared right or even undetrstood what I heared.
The NDS CAM is only licensed to OEM. For OEMS it is cheaper( or maybe part of the license?!) to make it part of the mother board and not a separate part. So, NDS CAM is inseparable from any NDS decoding BOX. > > Actualy NDS is pretty open about this. Their cards contain both a > smart card (memory for decryption keys) and a proprietary decoder chip. NDS Open?! I sent them a few E-mail and got 0 replies. > > Therefore you cannot take their card and put it in a standard decoder, > at best it will read the keys, but it won't be able to do anything > with them. Nor can you put a regular card in a YES box. Again at best > it would have keys, but no decoder. The Decoder is not on the smart card, the smart card interface is too slow to do MPEG2 decoding, and it's CPU is getting stronger all the time, but still it's not capable of MPEG2 decoding in realtime. The decoder (CAM) is part of the motherboard when you have an DNS box ( Cable or SAT). You need diffrent CAM for every encryption method, a few CAM models can decrypt many encryption systems, but you still need a valid smart card. No, there is no CAM for decoding NDS. Think of it this way the CAM is a sort of hardware PGP program and the Smart card have your secret key. > > If you want the function it would be best to contact YES and NDS > directly. They won't help you build a PVR, but if enough people ask for > a decoder unit with a unencrypted video out and a control port, they > might offer them to their customers. Good Luck! If you do succeed, please send an E-mail to one of the Sky Network forums, many Sky subscribers would be glad to hear it. The Sky subscribers base is NDS millking cow and if they never got a CAM, what make you think they will make one for Israel? > > You might also consider writing to keneset. If Israel's copyright laws > were changed to support paying customers having PVRs, instead of the > current laws which support the "all CD/DVDs 10 NIS" shops that pop up > near bus stations, we'd have PVRs. Why?! but you have a "PVR" "Yes MAX", I haven't seen one, but following NDS tradition: It's probably air tight and encrypted to the bone. Gal ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
