Hi, >From some contact I had with the cable companies I know that: 1. All of them are in the progress of switching to some sort of dialup connection - Over cable it will be pptp or l2tp. 2. The dialup connection has not been done in any way to help the customers. It is only to help the ISPs to prevent unauthorized people to connect to their networks (1. MAC cloning. 2. some cable modem let you get up to 4 IP addresses from the ISP, which means you can connect 4 PC to the ISP directly. They don't like it...). If you get anything from it (Which I know we are not) then good for you :) 3. The transfer to the dialup includes the ISP and the carrier (Cable companies in this case) and I know that in some areas they still didn't switch to it. 4. If you have only one station attached to the ISP try to get pptp modem. You can find somel2tp projects but from what I saw they are still not mature. 5. If you are connecting several stations then turn one of them to a router. Don't worry about the MTU. Set the MTU and MRU in the dialer to 1450. In the iptables add "iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu" so you will not have to change the MTU to all the LAN stations. I hope I wrote the line right ;) 6. Another option is to get a xDSL router. It will do all the dialup & NAT & FW work for you. This way the changes in your home network are minors. 7. Remember that in option 5 all the LAN is behind NAT. 8. About security. Well it doesn't matter if you are using DHCP or dialup. You get a real IP address, which means the world can see you. I strongly recommend using the firewall.
Any way, don't waste time on getting mad on 012. All the ISPs are going to do it. Think what is the best way for you to live with it ;) Best Regards Yehoram Ben-Yaacov -----Original Message----- From: Dan Fruehauf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, December 09, 2003 23:08 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cable Internet, 012, and what's between it... Recently (actually today) i acquired a broadband cable connection through the new (and pretty tempting) deal of AZTV and 012.net. i'm not going to promote their sales, but in short, you pay them, and they give you broadband internet access, in a low price. In order to make sure i could connect through linux, i called 012 support line, and asked about their method of connection. I was told that the authentication is done via DHCP, using the cable modem. forgetting to ask for the name of the person that helped me with that, i got cables installed today and after the basic installation the technition showed me how to connect using WindowsXP (yuck.). The connection was done via some kind of a dialer that uses L2TP. Unconcerned i dialed 012 again, asking them how can i connect with the method promised to me - dhcp. what i mainly got was some lame excuses, and that i should connect with a dialer and that connecting via DHCP is deprecated (one of their excuses was that it is unstable and insecure). Not getting into details, it is probably possible to connect via linux to 012, but why should we? - when other isps give you your DHCP without arguing... While writing this email, i didnt disconnect from 012, but i'm willing to, mainly because one of the comments i got from their support, translating to english it was something in the form of : "hey, if you disable DHCP access and move everybody to dialers and such, people not using windows will be unable to connect through you, it might be even 10% of your users" "we dont care, they are probably very few..." About promising me DHCP... just because i didnt write the name of the helpdesk dude that told me it's DHCP, i half way lost my 012 DHCP access, and besides, which linux user would like to stay in an ISP that doesnt give a damn **** about him or his convienience? ;/ My point is, that as members of this list, and linux users as well, beware of the evil 012, and the way they treat linux users. Tomorrow i'll probably disconnect from 012 and move to another ISP, Netvision Probably. (in short - because they told me they can fix me a static ip and i wouldnt have to add any $$). Take care. -- Dan Fruehauf. ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
