I general I try to avoid the C vs C++ and the C++ vs world arguments.
But let me make a brief comment:
My first PC (I had a couple of commodores before that... but that beside
the point) was an IBM XT 4.77Mhz with 64KB which was capable of doing
(peak performance) around 50-100,000 simple integer operations per
second. 
My current home machine is a Dual AthlonXP 1900, with 1GB memory, 10K
SCSI and an nVidia GF4/4400. This machine, can roughly do 4-5x10^9
simple integer operations per second.
In short, it's around 100,000 times faster. (Even more... a
current-level graphics cards is 10^9 times faster at throwing pixels
then my XT's CGA.)

And you know what? My company's client software is written in Java...
and it's slower then anything I ever ran on my XT. Every single object
oriented based text editor I use (minus VI) runs much slower then my
XT's Wordstar... should I continue? Open office rings a bell?

Instead of using this huge amount of computing power to break the
software sand-box and take computing to a new level, we waste it on
object constructors, virtual function tables, house keeping backbones,
run-time engines and smart libraries the do their best to keep lousy
programmers from get what they (really) deserve: a one-way ticket home.

Gilboa


On Thu, 2003-06-26 at 00:06, Ilya Konstantinov wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 June 2003 16:18, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> > But the percentage is getting lower and lower.
> > My guess it that in general close to 80% of the programmers getting out
> > to the workforce today, will 'do' java/C#/VB most of their professional
> > life... and with "design" (YUCK!) tools getting better and better, most
> > developers are on their way to become (Winders only) apes.
> 
> What is it that you people find so evil about Java and .NET? Is it the safety? 
> Is it the rich object model? Is it the reduced development time? Or your 
> point is that - the more we mingle with obscure crashes caused by memory 
> overruns - the smarter we become? I think there are better challenges in a 
> hacker's job than those buggers.
> 
> In fact, I'd be more likely to compare C# to Perl than to C++, as it reminds 
> me more of Perl in its overhead (ie. not fit for real time jobs but okay for 
> most applications), simplicity and API richness (ala CPAN). Unlike Perl, it 
> excells in code clarity, type safety (meaning more errors are detected at 
> compile time) and API robustness (most stuff in CPAN is excellent and yet the 
> .NET Framework is more polished).
> 
> > As for editor. Thank god, I don't see VI or Kate crashing on me every 5
> > seconds. (VC1.5/3/4/4.2/5/6 style)
> 
> Don't remember Visual Studio 6 (the C++ one) crashing on me recently (maybe 
> you were running some unstable extensions?) and Visual Studio 7 seems as 
> solid as rock.
> 



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