On Monday 13 January 2003 15:22, Nadav Har'El wrote: > On Mon, Jan 13, 2003, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote about "Re: article on ynet": > > I have emailed him few weeks before Trolltech has announced that > > Trolltech are switching from QPL to dual license (GPL. & QPL) - if he > > would have treated this mail, we probably wouldn't have GNOME today, and > > we wouldn't have 2 teams working on desktop enviroments.. > > You know, had I listened to all the people telling me of better ways to do > a Hebrew spell-checker, or told me of other people who have non-free spell- > checkers that could probably be swayed to make their spell-checker free, > we would still not have a Hebrew spell-checker today.
But my point is - that there was something (QT) which, true, wasn't released under GPL or LGPL, and I had the info that it would be released under a different license. It's not like I was saying "I guarantee that in the future it be will GPL", I said to him: few weeks.. > So sometimes developers of free software *should* stick to their guns, take > risks, and not desert ship before the fog clears. And even if when the fog > clears we are left with two alternatives solutions, it's not such a huge > loss. In a few years, either one solution will sink (like most people don't > remember Tcl/Tk, or even Xt and Motif, nowadays), or if there's enough > merit in both both will remain (the Emacs/Vi war is raging on for almost 20 > years). I agree with you on this one. > Richard Stallman said in his lecture (and I don't know if he's right, but > I guess he has all the data...) that we no longer have problems in finding > people to write free software. So it's not such a huge loss if some work is > duplicated. I'm not saying all work should be duplicated 10 times (like is > happening in the commercial software world), but if parts of it is done > a couple of times - it's not that horrible. It's not that there are missing people to write, the big thing that was missing (and it is today) people that write GOOD software. Here are 2 related example of great software, lously written: * OpenH323 & PWLib - both are being used in H.323 based applications (video/audio chat, etc) - feel free to compile and install it - it's a LIVING NIGHTMARE! It doesn't know where to install and if it's installing, it doesn't install the.. umm... headers... * GnomeMeeting - Very nice piece of software which I really like, great features, and works well. Feel free to try to compile the CVS version, and you'll find how FUCKED up is Gnome build enviroment! such as mess! it doesn't even runs automake well, not to mention other parts (and the auto tools were invented to PREVENT such a fucked up job!) > Actually, it's about time somebody started to develop X12... > Or at least about a new version of the ICCCM or the Inter Client Exchange > paradigms, that Gnome and KDE tried to reinvent (badly, in my opinion). > If that happen's, you'll also have two versions of X windows :) Feel free to install Windows and try ANY of the commercial X windows servers, and you'll quickly find how they're lagging behind XFree86. Anti aliasing? XRandR? Xv? XRenderer? Xr/Xc extentions? they never heard of it., but you DO pay $495 for a single damn copy and they are all based on X11R5 (some of them are on X11R6).. The X.org organisation is practically dead. Instead of X.org members writing new stuff and XFree86 will porting from them, it's the other way around (if you have Access to Solaris 10 builds you'll find that just now, Sun just waked up to implement the XRenderer extention). Thanks, Hetz ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
