On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have began writing a story title "The Pope Died on Sunday" which is
> > written in Hebrew but some words and sententences need to be in English.
> > You can find it here:
> >
> > http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/humour/Pope/
> >
> > In any case, for now I write it in MS Word XP which is very convenient and
> > nice for these kind of things (I use very little formatting, no
> > sectioning, etc.). The problem is that it cannot run on Linux where I do
> > most of my work and so have to boot the computer to Windows to work on it.
> > I'd like to find a convenient alternative that will enable me to write
> > mixed Hebrew/English documents.
>
> Very "convinient", but produces very large html.
>
> Have a look at the html code. Any paragraph that includes enough mixed
> English/Hebrew is loaded with formatting codes.
>
> I think that it can be easily slashed (and be made better, in the process)
>
> The magic html entities you'll need are &rlm and &lrm (for HTML readers
> among you: ‏ and &apm;lrm;)
>

I don't care too much how big the HTML is as long as it looks well in
Internet Explorer and in Mozilla (which it does). I know it is very
bloated and does not validate, but it is a good HTML.

> >
> > What I need is:
> >
> > 1. Ability to convert to logical HTML (very important).
> >
> > 2. Ability to produce PDF (not necessarily the best PDF)
> >
> > 3. Ability to be inputted into Word somehow (I guess it can input any HTML
> > document that is valid enough).
> >
> > Now, working on Hebrew/Latin LaTeX using he2 is very nice, and I can
> > easily trade it for Word. The question is how well can I generate HTML
> > with it?
> >
> > Any other options? Open Office? AbiWord? (I don't need tables) I had bad
> > experience with Mozilla Composer which is full of bugs and annoyances.
> > Will one of the KDE or Gtk2 editors do for Bi-Di HTML editing?
>
> BTW: OpenOffice and Abiword run on a number of platforms.
>

Whatever. I need something that runs primarily on Linux.

> MS-Word, OpenOffice-Writer and AbiWord (And Lyx) are word processors. You
> can't compare them to text editors.
>

In this case, I can. I need something in which I can write Hebrew and
English and produce good output without losing my mind. I don't care if
it's a text editor or a word processor - I just need something that will
do the job well.

> I also don't like depending on a program I can't run from the shell (lyx
> can be run from the shell: at least to export to any format from an
> existing lyx document, BTW), because time and again I needed to copy the
> file from another place and 'make copy' or 'make mail' or 'make print' in
> the last minute.
>

Very well, building the files entirely from a shell script would be a nice
bonus.

But I'm still waiting for an answer. Can Mixed Hebrew/English LateX be
easily converted to good HTML that can be viewed on MSIE and Mozilla? Can
I simply use a Unicode and Bi-Di enabled text editor to write HTML. (no
gvim is not the answer - I don't want to reverse and reverse again the
HTML)

Regards,

        Shlomi Fish

> --
> Tzafrir Cohen
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir
>



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