wow! aren't you surprised now! a guy joins the list and asks abut... gee.. 
hebrew! never saw that one coming, I bet.

So I am a newbie, but:
-No one in the gnubies-il had the sufficient answers
-I've read anything under "hebrew" on the site, and implemented the things I 
somewhat-understood
-A friend told me it's better to ask you guys
-I've even looked through your archives!

so, without further ado..
the problem:
Editing hebrew HTML under the windows encoding (ok, I guess we'll go with go 
with ISO-8859-8-i. all the same for me), as well as normal text files under 
the same encoding. I don't really care about highlightning the tags, though I 
admit it's cute and of some help.

my system:
-pc
-mandrake 8.2
-KDE 3.0.3
-hebrew fonts installed
-hebrew keyboard using: 
setxkbmap -compat "group_led" -symbols 
"us(pc104)+il+group(switch)+group(shift_toggle)"

(the KDE flag thing didn't work)

Editors I've tryied:

-Kwrite: the biggest disappointment. That would be my preferred tool if it 
only supported hebrew. I can write hebrew fonts, but after I save and open it 
(with any program) all the hebrew I thought I was writing comes out as 
question marks. Proper Hebrew in txt files is displayed as latin gibber when 
opened with Kwrite.

-Kmail: the biggest reason to be disappointed with anything else. Kmail works. 
I am able to read and write hebrew mails just as any other windows enabled 
user.

-Mozilla-editor (1.2a): Hebrew works. But the goddemn thing tempers with my 
source code! (I can get sentimental when it comes to my source code) each 
time I save the file a blank line is added between two <meta> tags.
a <br> tag is inserted, each time I save, befoe any <li> tag (or is it after 
any </li>?) even if it will work, though it might be a fine HTML editor it's 
not much of a text editor.

-yudit: I got to see hebrew fonts which brought a lot of joy. Then I read his 
bidi support and realized nothing good will come out of that . What it said 
was: "I don't know, I don't like any of the bidi standards... I guess I'll 
make one up".

-qemacs: I started trying it out, then read it's multi-language support was 
based on yudit. that was the end of it.

-gvim -H: the tool I use right now. I can find some good points with it's bidi 
support (based on the configuration file from the IGLU), but it's not that 
conveniant to be able to view either hebrew words or english ones. 
major problem: I can't copy-paste there from mozilla. (meaning: pasted hebrew 
comes out as question marks)
smaller problems: 
* "set guifont" seems to have no affect from the .vimrc file or the .gvimrc. 
it does it's job when activated within gvim.
* it is, after all, a very complicated tool. I realize it's very powerfull 
(the hebrew support .vimrc is a very impressive power demonstration), but 
that still leaves it to be a powerfull, complicated, somewhat of an overkill 
to editing text.
* while we're at it, any configuration file out there to help me indent 
multiple lines?

another problem:
I just noticed that when filling a textbox with hebrew on mozilla I can't 
copy-paste it anywhere (not evenmozilla editor). Now that is a huge problem 
with my long forum messages that must be backed-up before sent. gotta solve 
this too.

basically, I'm willing to learn vim. and I guess I will, but that copy-paste 
problem is a very big one. Allowing hebrew on my Kwrite would be the best 
solution if it exists. I guess my question, narrowed down to one line is:
"Is there out there an ISO-8859-8-i easy, intuitive editor?"
or perhaps:
"Is there a linux subsitute for windows' wordpad, encluding it's hebrew 
support?"

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