On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> As I write this I've been on-line for about an hour without PPP dying so maybe
> whatever was wrong has **solved itself**. I didn't do anything to solve the

there is no such thing as **solved itself**. this is software, bits and
bytes, ones and zeros, not black voodoo or arcance arts. what is
possible is that some UNKNOWN condition has changed. what we want is to
find out what is this condition.

> On 12-Apr-2001 mulix wrote:
> > it is not my intention to open an ISP flame war, but if your ISP is so
> > ignorant of linux, why don't you switch to a linux-friendly ISP? (i'm
> > not going to recommend one, just take a quick look at my mail headers).

> I don't think we should need a **linux-friendly ISP**. Until now, it hasn't
> made any difference to me who my ISP is. The same was true of my dial-up ISP,
> who knew nothing about LINUX. I had very few problems with either until now.
> The truth is, that I don't think the ISPs are WINDOWS friendly either since I've
> heard many stories of Windows users being told the **solution** to a problem is
> to re-install Windows. In any case, the reason I chose my ISP is MONEY - If I'm
> not mistaken, you pay three times what I do per month!!! (I pay 99 shekels and
> will get two months free after the first 10).

you choose your ISP for your reasons, i choose my ISP for mine. fair
enough. however, if you choose your ISP for reason A, and only reason A,
knowing that they suck big time at reason B, complaining that they
really suck in regards to B is not very productive...

> > ppp doesn't start points to a configuration problem on your machine.

> That would be logical if it was a situation where it never started,
> but in my case it sometimes does (and dies after a few minutes) and
> sometimes won't start at all. Turning the ALCATEL modem off and on
> again **sometimes** helps - but not always.

won't start at all means just that, that it won't start at all. ITYM
"won't finish it initialization sequence", whatever that sequence is.

> [root@shlomo1 /root]# myisrasrvsolomon
> starting ADSL on Israsrv   -  solomon
> (unknown)[1760]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:538]: Client
> connection established.
> (unknown)[1760]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:644]: Outgoing call
> established.
> [root@shlomo1 /root]# warn[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:239]: discarding out-of-order

so far, all is normal. you can disregard the out-of-order message.

> I get the following when PPP doesn't come up.
>
> [root@shlomo1 /root]# myisrasrvsolomon
> starting ADSL on Israsrv   -  solomon
> (unknown)[2508]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:538]: Client
> connection established.
> (unknown)[2508]: log[pptp_dispatch_ctrl_packet:pptp_ctrl.c:644]: Outgoing call
> established.

again, all is normal. it seems you are running pptp-linux-1.02, not
pptp-mulix?

> These line look **strange** to me but I don't know what they mean:
> Apr 12 15:25:12 shlomo1 pppd[2511]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0>
> <magic 0x787197a3> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> Apr 12 15:25:40 shlomo1 last message repeated 9 times
> Apr 12 15:25:43 shlomo1 pppd[2511]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

they aren't strange, they are the beginning of configuration negotiation
between your pppd and the remote ppp server. they say the remote server
is not responding to you.

> I was not able to find anything in the log at the times when PPP died, but
> that's probably because I don't remember at exactly what time it happened and I
> have so many PPPD messages in the log that I don't know which are **crashes**
> and which are disconnects that I did by killing PPTP. I'll try to find log
> messages if it happens again.

grep is your friend here.

< log of connection failures snipped >

< log of a succesfull connection snipped >

this is highly peculiar. at first you fail to connect, and then you
succeed (i assume with no configuration changes). this could be a faulty
pptp, a faulty modem or a flunky server on the other side.

what pptp version are you using? what modem version?

-- 
mulix
http://www.advogato.com/person/mulix

linux/reboot.h: #define LINUX_REBOOT_MAGIC1 0xfee1dead


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