On Tuesday 24 October 2000 18:50, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Well, as you may know or not know - KDE 2.0 final will be out tonight.
> >
> > Hebrew:
> > * For viewing Logical and Visual pages - you'll need true type font's -
> > elmar fonts look specially ugly (no offense Eli - I know that what you
> > could release as free) so you'll need some fonts from your Windows
> > partition and add them to your Linux (I'm not going to explain how to do
> > it - as always - RTFM).
>
> (I presue that by TTF you mean unicode.)
>
> But in an erlier post you siad that the browser will be able to use
> iso-8859-8 (iso8 for short) fonts (as opposed to the other components.
The browser works with latin8 fonts. As a matter of fact, I think (haven't
tested myself), that even the hebrew translations will work with 8859-8 fonts
if you use Qt-2.2.1.
> Is there any unicode font included in XFree4, which includes Hebrew
> glyphs? Be it un ugly fixed font, It still much easier to read than
> gibrish.
There is the so called ucs font, which includes (rather ugly) hebrew glyphs.
Another useable font is the cyberbit one. Just search for them on google. If
you have an hebrew windows around, you can just use the fonts that come with
hebrew windows. The arial, tahoma and courier fonts all look rather nice in
hebrew.
> For example, mozilla's default config for X is to use the "fixed" font for
> the iso8 codepage, because one such font comes with XFree (I believe it
> comes from X11). So Heberw text in mozilla looks ugly until you change
> that (it was a bit difficult with M16, with happened to crash at that
> point :( ), but you could read Hebrew sites even with standard fonts.
Should (should because I never really tested it ;-) work with konqueror too.
> > * If you want to use the hebrew menus - you'll need to replace the
> > fonts.dir which redhat (if you use redhat) creates and create another one
> > fonts.dir and fonts.alias with Tzafrir's script (Tzafrir? could u
> > republish the URL please?
>
> I put it in:
> ftp://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Install/ttmkfdir-heb
>
> > I'm moving to KMail and I got a mess here). Don't forget to remove the
> > directory from with the chkfontpath and adding it again - and restarting
> > the xfs (stop and start - restart doesn't seem to work)
>
> For which distros is chkfontpath availble? I saw it included in the
> helix-gnome packages for no reason aparent to me. I know it originally
> comes with RH 6.x and above (and with Mandrake 6.x and above).
> Did XFree 4 adopt anything similar? If not, what's the standard way for
> adding a fonts dir to the fonts path?
>
> Does debian has any program to manipulate the font path for the X server?
> Does Caldera? SuSE?
'xset +fp path' ?
> > * Pages like walla will look "????" if you don't select from the encoding
> > the ISO-8859-8-i or the CP1255 encoding. For visual pages - select the
> > ISO-8859-8 (like Haaretz, IOL, Tapuz, Internet Zahav etc..)
>
> <off topic>
> Have a look at Haaretz and IOL's HTML pages.
> They mark their HTML pages as:
> <meta charset="visual">
> Instead of using what defined in the HTML standard:
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-8">
Actually I added a workaround for that once. Hmmm... did a short test, and
the charset="visual" still seems to work.
> (or have I got it worng)
>
> If you want to see a real ironic example of such problematic charset
> marking, have a look at:
> http://www.snunit.k12.il/heb_new.html#html
> </off topic>
>
> Back to topic: Lars, Hetz: anyway I can configure konquerer to identify
> those marks as iso-8859-8 charset pages?
It should work already as said above. At least for iol it does. haaretz is
down, so I can't test at the moment.
Lars
> > * There are some glitches here and there - specially with numbers and
> > "makaf" near them - they look in reverse. Known problem which will be
> > fixed any day now. Also, Walla lower part of the main page is alligned to
> > the left - known problem. There are other known problems which are being
> > taken care of and hopefully will be fixed by the time KDE 2.0.1 will be
> > out (which will be around 1 month from now) - but 90% of the web pages
> > looks great in Hebrew
> >
> > * Hebrew keys - acking problem. I asked lots of times if someone
> > couldmove his/her butt and write a small text file how to switch - no
> > body volunteered to do that. tuff luck. In case someone is still
> > interested - KDE 2.0 got this hack called kxkb which is a "front end" to
> > xkb...
>
> Hmmm...
> I wrote my description at: http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/56.html (or
> actually http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/86.html )
>
> It works fine for me (on XFree 3.3.6, which is what I have)
>
> I have also tried to answer some questions regarding this, when they came
> up, See:
> http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?r
>ootId=2845374&msg_id=2845374
>
> http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?r
>ootId=2814349&msg_id=2814349
>
> And also a couple of times in private mail.
>
> I have almost never got any followups to my replies. This means that
> either my reply was good enough, or that the one who asked the question
> did not have the time to refer to it.
>
> Again, it works great for me...
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