On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Well, as you may know or not know - KDE 2.0 final will be out tonight.

> Hebrew: 
> * For viewing Logical and Visual pages - you'll need true type font's - elmar 
> fonts look specially ugly (no offense Eli - I know that what you could 
> release as free) so you'll need some fonts from your Windows partition and 
> add them to your Linux (I'm not going to explain how to do it - as always - 
> RTFM).

(I presue that by TTF you mean unicode.)

But in an erlier post you siad that the browser will be able to use
iso-8859-8 (iso8 for short) fonts (as opposed to the other components.

Is there any unicode font included in XFree4, which includes Hebrew
glyphs? Be it un ugly fixed font, It still much easier to read than
gibrish.

For example, mozilla's default config for X is to use the "fixed" font for
the iso8 codepage, because one such font comes with XFree (I believe it
comes from X11). So Heberw text in mozilla looks ugly until you change
that (it was a bit difficult with M16, with happened to crash at that
point :( ), but you could read Hebrew sites even with standard fonts.

> 
> * If you want to use the hebrew menus - you'll need to replace the fonts.dir 
> which redhat (if you use redhat) creates and create another one fonts.dir and 
> fonts.alias with Tzafrir's script (Tzafrir? could u republish the URL please? 

I put it in:
ftp://linux.org.il/pub/Hebrew/Install/ttmkfdir-heb

> I'm moving to KMail and I got a mess here). Don't forget to remove the 
> directory from with the chkfontpath and adding it again - and restarting the 
> xfs (stop and start - restart doesn't seem to work)

For which distros is chkfontpath availble? I saw it included in the
helix-gnome packages for no reason aparent to me. I know it originally
comes with RH 6.x and above (and with Mandrake 6.x and above).
Did XFree 4 adopt anything similar? If not, what's the standard way for
adding a fonts dir to the fonts path?

Does debian has any program to manipulate the font path for the X server?
Does Caldera? SuSE?

> 
> * Pages like walla will look "????" if you don't select from the encoding the 
> ISO-8859-8-i or the CP1255 encoding. For visual pages - select the ISO-8859-8 
> (like Haaretz, IOL, Tapuz, Internet Zahav etc..)

<off topic>
Have a look at Haaretz and IOL's HTML pages.
They mark their HTML pages as:
<meta charset="visual">
Instead of using what defined in the HTML standard:
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-8">

(or have I got it worng)

If you want to see a real ironic example of such problematic charset
marking, have a look at:
http://www.snunit.k12.il/heb_new.html#html
</off topic>

Back to topic: Lars, Hetz: anyway I can configure konquerer to identify
those marks as iso-8859-8 charset pages?

> 
> * There are some glitches here and there - specially with numbers and "makaf" 
> near them - they look in reverse. Known problem which will be fixed any day 
> now. Also, Walla lower part of the main page is alligned to the left - known 
> problem. There are other known problems which are being taken care of and 
> hopefully will be fixed by the time KDE 2.0.1 will be out (which will be 
> around 1 month from now) - but 90% of the web  pages looks great in Hebrew
> 
> * Hebrew keys - acking problem. I asked lots of times if someone couldmove 
> his/her butt and write a small text file how to switch - no body volunteered 
> to do that. tuff luck. In case someone is still interested - KDE 2.0 got this 
> hack called kxkb which is a "front end" to xkb...

Hmmm...
I wrote my description at: http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/56.html (or
actually http://www.iglu.org.il/faq/cache/86.html )

It works fine for me (on XFree 3.3.6, which is what I have)

I have also tried to answer some questions regarding this, when they came
up, See:
http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2845374&msg_id=2845374

http://www2.iol.co.il/communikit/scripts/forums/live/forums_single_25.asp?rootId=2814349&msg_id=2814349

And also a couple of times in private mail. 

I have almost never got any followups to my replies. This means that
either my reply was good enough, or that the one who asked the question
did not have the time to refer to it.

Again, it works great for me...

-- 
Tzafrir Cohen
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir


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