On Wed, 22 Jul 2026 at 18:36, Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Other than that question, I think I generally agree with you.  The
> interesting operations here (getting an fd to something that was
> previously inaccessible) are different enough from normal path lookups
> that I think they deserve to be explicit syscalls or syscall modes,
> not magic links.

This is a super specialized use case.

I sort of agree that doing statmount() as a syscall was not a bad
idea.   But new syscall for getting a backing layer, that makes sense
on just a couple of filesystems?

And that leaves us with ioctl.   And ioclt() returning an open fd has
it's own problems, besides ioctl being a generally bad interface.

And we have all these powerful concepts and interfaces for
filesystems, why the big resistance to actually using them?.

Sure, it's easy to misuse, but I don't yet see why this particular
case would be a misuse.  Enlighten me please.

Thanks,
Miklos

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