Paul, would you please define the word genocide? It is often thrown around carelessly these days. ᐧ
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:48 PM Paul Shorb <[email protected]> wrote: > Seth - > I can agree to all of that you said and still ask: What about the > genocide that is being conducted right now, by Israel, with resources > provided by the United States? > - Paul Shorb > > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:38 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I find it very frustrating when folks make these suggestions. It sounds >> so easy - just negotiate! As if no one in Israel has ever thought of that, >> or tried it. Here’s the thing I’m not sure you’re picking up… Israel’s >> enemies don’t want to negotiate. That is not the stated goal. They are not >> “seeking a compromise” >> >> They want Israel gone, and they want the Jews in it gone. The reason I >> can state this so unequivocally is because they have stated it >> unequivocally. >> >> I would be very interested to understand how you propose to negotiate >> given that starting position. I negotiate all day long for a living and I >> don’t have any good ideas. >> >> October 7th did not happen because of Israel’s negligence. It happened >> because a terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction sent an army of >> evil into Israel to rape women, kill babies, shoot innocent civilians, and >> kidnap the ones they didn’t kill. Israeli intelligence was absolutely >> negligent in not being more vigilant, but that’s not the reason. >> >> If you want peace, it’s easy. If they put down their weapons, there will >> be a Palestinian state. If the Israelis put down their weapons there will >> be another holocaust. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 23, 2025, at 1:22 PM, Bijoy Misra <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Not sit back idle, but negotiate. >> Killing a hundred people through overhead bombing does not show any >> humanity! >> As I have come to know Oct 7 happened through Israel's negligence. >> You don't take revenge by starving innocent children. >> It is overwhelming to see these difficult pictures and then bomb overhead. >> We are several hundred years behind now! >> >> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:08 PM Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Agreed and well put! >>> >>> Now if we can get the people, like those who initiated October 7 and >>> those who initiated 911 and those who call for the destruction of Israel >>> and wiping them off the face of the map every day, to STOP that and their >>> horrifically destructive ideology, maybe we would get somewhere? What do >>> you think? >>> >>> Or should Israel just sit idly by and let Hamas, Iran, and all their >>> neighbors just wipe them off the face of the map? Perhaps they’re just >>> joking around? >>> >>> Unless and until that rhetoric and attempts at annihilation an entire >>> people dissipates….. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 12:55 PM Bijoy Misra <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't have a stake in this. But seeing a hundred people being >>>> killed every day by overhead >>>> bombing does bother me. I would appreciate it if the activists have a >>>> voice against it. These >>>> hundreds of bombed people and starving children are as innocent as the >>>> couple in DC. >>>> Let all human beings be treated equally. >>>> Bijoy Misra >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:28 AM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already offered a thoughtful and fact-based >>>>> admonishment of the GRALTA content. He offered exhaustive commentary on >>>>> the specific claims made in the content and on the website, with specific >>>>> references. He is not simply claiming it’s antisemitic content, he is >>>>> explaining precisely why it is antisemitic. He has proposed a counter >>>>> narrative supported by the evidence. It happens to also be a powerful one, >>>>> because it’s true. >>>>> >>>>> If you take issue with his assertions about the nature and character >>>>> of the content, why not actually respond to the facts? Instead of the ad >>>>> hominem attacks. Which facts have been misrepresented? >>>>> >>>>> With two Jews gunned down in the streets by a guy shouting “free >>>>> Palestine” one of your Jewish neighbors is still writing to a public email >>>>> list with thousands of members to stand with integrity against the >>>>> proliferation of antisemitic propaganda. And I stand with him. >>>>> >>>>> Seth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 23, 2025, at 9:50 AM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Freedom of speech allows for inaccurate statements, >>>>> misrepresentations of facts and replacing facts with opinions and then >>>>> others echoing them as facts. >>>>> Unfortunately, this is happening here, again. >>>>> >>>>> GRALATA Foundation has been clear and consistent about its mission, >>>>> readily available on its website, in its programs and literature. >>>>> >>>>> For straightforward reporting of facts, you might consider a >>>>> subscription to *Haaretz*, a great Israeli newspaper. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 22, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Spot on and thank you for stating this Seth. >>>>> >>>>> …… >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 3:26 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Joan, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already pointed out, in great detail and rather >>>>>> articulately, exactly why the propaganda films being screened in Lincoln >>>>>> by >>>>>> Gralta are anti-Semitic. >>>>>> >>>>>> He has also made the point on numerous occasions that perpetuating >>>>>> these false narratives really does have real world consequences. It is >>>>>> not >>>>>> innocuous as some have suggested. And two Israeli kids murdered by a >>>>>> “free >>>>>> Palestine activist” are an unfortunate affirmation of his point. >>>>>> >>>>>> While you and your cohort are free to attend the screenings, he too >>>>>> should be free to criticize them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Seth >>>>>> >>>>>> > On May 22, 2025, at 12:18 PM, Joan Kimball <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > It is both untrue and offensive to link this effort to antisemitism. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> Rick >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>> Rick >>> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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