Seth - I can agree to all of that you said and still ask: What about the genocide that is being conducted right now, by Israel, with resources provided by the United States? - Paul Shorb
On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:38 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: > I find it very frustrating when folks make these suggestions. It sounds > so easy - just negotiate! As if no one in Israel has ever thought of that, > or tried it. Here’s the thing I’m not sure you’re picking up… Israel’s > enemies don’t want to negotiate. That is not the stated goal. They are not > “seeking a compromise” > > They want Israel gone, and they want the Jews in it gone. The reason I > can state this so unequivocally is because they have stated it > unequivocally. > > I would be very interested to understand how you propose to negotiate > given that starting position. I negotiate all day long for a living and I > don’t have any good ideas. > > October 7th did not happen because of Israel’s negligence. It happened > because a terrorist group dedicated to Israel’s destruction sent an army of > evil into Israel to rape women, kill babies, shoot innocent civilians, and > kidnap the ones they didn’t kill. Israeli intelligence was absolutely > negligent in not being more vigilant, but that’s not the reason. > > If you want peace, it’s easy. If they put down their weapons, there will > be a Palestinian state. If the Israelis put down their weapons there will > be another holocaust. > > > > > > > > > > On May 23, 2025, at 1:22 PM, Bijoy Misra <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Not sit back idle, but negotiate. > Killing a hundred people through overhead bombing does not show any > humanity! > As I have come to know Oct 7 happened through Israel's negligence. > You don't take revenge by starving innocent children. > It is overwhelming to see these difficult pictures and then bomb overhead. > We are several hundred years behind now! > > On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 1:08 PM Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Agreed and well put! >> >> Now if we can get the people, like those who initiated October 7 and >> those who initiated 911 and those who call for the destruction of Israel >> and wiping them off the face of the map every day, to STOP that and their >> horrifically destructive ideology, maybe we would get somewhere? What do >> you think? >> >> Or should Israel just sit idly by and let Hamas, Iran, and all their >> neighbors just wipe them off the face of the map? Perhaps they’re just >> joking around? >> >> Unless and until that rhetoric and attempts at annihilation an entire >> people dissipates….. >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 12:55 PM Bijoy Misra <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't have a stake in this. But seeing a hundred people being killed >>> every day by overhead >>> bombing does bother me. I would appreciate it if the activists have a >>> voice against it. These >>> hundreds of bombed people and starving children are as innocent as the >>> couple in DC. >>> Let all human beings be treated equally. >>> Bijoy Misra >>> >>> On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 10:28 AM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already offered a thoughtful and fact-based >>>> admonishment of the GRALTA content. He offered exhaustive commentary on >>>> the specific claims made in the content and on the website, with specific >>>> references. He is not simply claiming it’s antisemitic content, he is >>>> explaining precisely why it is antisemitic. He has proposed a counter >>>> narrative supported by the evidence. It happens to also be a powerful one, >>>> because it’s true. >>>> >>>> If you take issue with his assertions about the nature and character of >>>> the content, why not actually respond to the facts? Instead of the ad >>>> hominem attacks. Which facts have been misrepresented? >>>> >>>> With two Jews gunned down in the streets by a guy shouting “free >>>> Palestine” one of your Jewish neighbors is still writing to a public email >>>> list with thousands of members to stand with integrity against the >>>> proliferation of antisemitic propaganda. And I stand with him. >>>> >>>> Seth >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 23, 2025, at 9:50 AM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Freedom of speech allows for inaccurate statements, misrepresentations >>>> of facts and replacing facts with opinions and then others echoing them as >>>> facts. >>>> Unfortunately, this is happening here, again. >>>> >>>> GRALATA Foundation has been clear and consistent about its mission, >>>> readily available on its website, in its programs and literature. >>>> >>>> For straightforward reporting of facts, you might consider a >>>> subscription to *Haaretz*, a great Israeli newspaper. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 22, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Rick Sale <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Spot on and thank you for stating this Seth. >>>> >>>> …… >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 3:26 PM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Joan, >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan Sheffi has already pointed out, in great detail and rather >>>>> articulately, exactly why the propaganda films being screened in Lincoln >>>>> by >>>>> Gralta are anti-Semitic. >>>>> >>>>> He has also made the point on numerous occasions that perpetuating >>>>> these false narratives really does have real world consequences. It is >>>>> not >>>>> innocuous as some have suggested. And two Israeli kids murdered by a >>>>> “free >>>>> Palestine activist” are an unfortunate affirmation of his point. >>>>> >>>>> While you and your cohort are free to attend the screenings, he too >>>>> should be free to criticize them. >>>>> >>>>> Seth >>>>> >>>>> > On May 22, 2025, at 12:18 PM, Joan Kimball <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > It is both untrue and offensive to link this effort to antisemitism. >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> Rick >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> Rick >> > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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