> > The horses meets cyclist issue is a tad more complicated but there must be > a solution.
This is one model for how horses, bikers and walkers can share the same trails, focusing on education and encouragement of courteous and safe behavior: https://safetrailsmarin.org/ I think the 5-minute video on the front page is worth watching. On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 9:03 PM Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln < lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: > The horses meets cyclist issue is a tad more complicated but there must be > a solution. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS> > > On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 8:45 PM, Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Mountain bikes are designed for trail and off road. I only ride a mountain > bike and love the trails and nature. They are exillerating. > > Sidewalks and roads are dangerous as they are full of traffic and > pedestrians. And not to mention pavement really hurts when you go down. > > How about everyone gets along and is respectful of one another and their > use of our trail system - use common sense, be courteous - stay on the > trail, yield to hikers and horses. > > There should not be all of this animosity and contentiousness. > > Just one mountain bikers opinion. > > Kind Regards, > > Scott Clary > 617-968-5769 > > Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022, 4:56 PM Jennifer Goodman <jgood...@antioch.edu> > wrote: > > No one’s arguing whether bikes should exist in our town. But Amsterdam is > a city. Mt Misery is the woods. Let’s keep bikes on sidewalks and roads, as > they are in Boston. It does feel dangerous to me to have them on the > trails. When I’m walking with bikes around, I hear the ‘on your left’ about > a nanosecond before they are on top of me, and it's impossible to react in > time. In what way is this an improvement? And will all the dogs at Mt > Misery react fast enough, or in the right direction to get out of the way? > Sounds like a mess waiting to happen. Especially if it’s “mostly kids." And > I thought the ticks were the biggest challenge about a walk at Mt Misery. > Well, maybe it’s aptly named after all? > > On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Margaret Olson <marga...@margaretolson.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Doug - that's a great reminder that what we're talking about when > it comes to bikes on trails in Lincoln in 2022 is mostly kids with some > adults on errands and short casual trips. The serious mountain bikers > aren't interested. I'm guessing, but this is probably why our neighboring > towns have no problems; their trails aren't any more compelling to an adult > than ours are. > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:00 PM Doug Carson <dougcarso...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I think Margaret makes some great points here... > > Not only was Lincoln Guide Service attracting cyclists to Lincoln, but > mountain biking was a relatively new sport in the 90s. Boston folks were > coming to the Lincoln trails to *try* mountain biking. Those days are long > gone...not because bikes are banned from most of our trails (as Margaret > points out, Weston & Concord permit bikes on trails, yet they're not > overrun with riders)...but because the sport has grown up. And as lovely > as our trails are, they are not much of a mountain biking destination > anymore. There are far too many better destinations that attract Boston > mountain bikers. > As our town thinks about this issue, let's keep in mind that with > increasing traffic and gas prices, and of course the environmental issues, > the more cars off the road, the better. Now imagine you can avoid one more > drive to the post office, school, the library, Donelans, etc. because you > could now use a mix of roads AND trails to get around town...I believe that > would be a more desirable place to live. > There are growing pains with any change (and rude people wherever you > go). I recall visiting Amsterdam a few years ago with all the people > biking everywhere there; I almost got run over on several occasions! But > as a pedestrian there, I quickly figured out how to navigate. Point being > that even good change takes some time to get used to it! > > Doug Carson > > > On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 01:34:17 PM EDT, Margaret Olson < > marga...@margaretolson.com> wrote: > > > I'd like to remind everyone that bikes are permitted on the Weston and > Concord town trails with no adverse effects that this regular walker (24 > years) can detect. Nor have I heard that there are problems on those > trails. I am often on the Weston trails as I live near them. > > Twenty five years ago the Lincoln Guide Service did create a problem on > the trails - but it is long gone. > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 1:07 PM Barbara Peskin <bpeski...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *Correction - 8 miles to 19...* > > Hi Lincoln Talk, > I haven't had a chance to read all the comments but I know people have > mentioned that the Conservation Commission is meeting tonight and vote on > whether to enact proposed changes to trail use that include going from 8 to > 19 miles of trails for recreational bike use and giving permits to large > bike groups to use the trails and parking areas. > > As a 25+ year walker on Lincoln Trails and cherisher of nature on those > walks, my main concern with proposed changes is that it will invite metro > west bike groups to our trails and parking areas. I sent in a detailed > letter and attended both forums. I can't attend tonight but my hope is they > will postpone enacting changes and hear from more walkers and nature > cherishers. > > If you would like to get a copy of my letter which is in the public record > I'm happy to share it - it will give you more info. > > I've seen other wonderful arguments and letters asking to keep bike groups > off the trails for a variety of reasons as well. > > I'll close here with the thought that at the last forum one LIncoln biker > said he appreciates nature when biking on the trails alone - unfortunately > the proposed sweeping changes to the trail use all over town is going to > bring in bike groups - it's not about one or two Lincoln bike riders. > > Thanks for listening. 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