Bingo! ------ Sara Mattes
> On Jun 1, 2022, at 5:24 PM, Leslie Turek <leslie.tu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Someone at the open meeting made a good point. The local bike riders want to > have expanded bike trails in order to have a network that would assist them > to commute around town without having to ride on the dangerous narrow roads. > A perfectly reasonable request. But the trails that were designated in the > proposed plan were small dense networks, such as at Mt. Misery, that really > didn't help much to help with that goal. I would like to see a plan that was > specifically focussed on allowing people to travel around town, so that there > would be only one bike-allowed trail through a specific area, with the rest > of the trails reserved for walkers only. > > Leslie Turek > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 5:18 PM Margaret Olson <marga...@margaretolson.com > <mailto:marga...@margaretolson.com>> wrote: > To put paths along all our major roads with no paths currently would require > a serious commitment by the town. It could be done, but we would need to > either spend very large amounts of money or make the roads with problems > (limited right of way, ledge, wetlands) one way in order to devote a lane to > a path. We would also need to remove most of the slip lanes. The majority of > major roads with no path currently have a problem. Short of that level of > commitment the trails are part of the network to get around town on foot or > on bike. > > For a data point, a roadside path on Weston road had a rough estimate of 7-8 > million assuming we could acquire the easements. > > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:56 PM Jennifer Goodman <jgood...@antioch.edu > <mailto:jgood...@antioch.edu>> wrote: > No one’s arguing whether bikes should exist in our town. But Amsterdam is a > city. Mt Misery is the woods. Let’s keep bikes on sidewalks and roads, as > they are in Boston. It does feel dangerous to me to have them on the trails. > When I’m walking with bikes around, I hear the ‘on your left’ about a > nanosecond before they are on top of me, and it's impossible to react in > time. In what way is this an improvement? And will all the dogs at Mt Misery > react fast enough, or in the right direction to get out of the way? Sounds > like a mess waiting to happen. Especially if it’s “mostly kids." And I > thought the ticks were the biggest challenge about a walk at Mt Misery. Well, > maybe it’s aptly named after all? > >> On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Margaret Olson <marga...@margaretolson.com >> <mailto:marga...@margaretolson.com>> wrote: >> >> Thanks Doug - that's a great reminder that what we're talking about when it >> comes to bikes on trails in Lincoln in 2022 is mostly kids with some adults >> on errands and short casual trips. The serious mountain bikers aren't >> interested. I'm guessing, but this is probably why our neighboring towns >> have no problems; their trails aren't any more compelling to an adult than >> ours are. >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:00 PM Doug Carson <dougcarso...@yahoo.com >> <mailto:dougcarso...@yahoo.com>> wrote: >> I think Margaret makes some great points here... >> >> Not only was Lincoln Guide Service attracting cyclists to Lincoln, but >> mountain biking was a relatively new sport in the 90s. Boston folks were >> coming to the Lincoln trails to *try* mountain biking. Those days are long >> gone...not because bikes are banned from most of our trails (as Margaret >> points out, Weston & Concord permit bikes on trails, yet they're not overrun >> with riders)...but because the sport has grown up. And as lovely as our >> trails are, they are not much of a mountain biking destination anymore. >> There are far too many better destinations that attract Boston mountain >> bikers. >> As our town thinks about this issue, let's keep in mind that with increasing >> traffic and gas prices, and of course the environmental issues, the more >> cars off the road, the better. Now imagine you can avoid one more drive to >> the post office, school, the library, Donelans, etc. because you could now >> use a mix of roads AND trails to get around town...I believe that would be a >> more desirable place to live. >> There are growing pains with any change (and rude people wherever you go). >> I recall visiting Amsterdam a few years ago with all the people biking >> everywhere there; I almost got run over on several occasions! But as a >> pedestrian there, I quickly figured out how to navigate. Point being that >> even good change takes some time to get used to it! >> >> Doug Carson >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 01:34:17 PM EDT, Margaret Olson >> <marga...@margaretolson.com <mailto:marga...@margaretolson.com>> wrote: >> >> >> I'd like to remind everyone that bikes are permitted on the Weston and >> Concord town trails with no adverse effects that this regular walker (24 >> years) can detect. Nor have I heard that there are problems on those trails. >> I am often on the Weston trails as I live near them. >> >> Twenty five years ago the Lincoln Guide Service did create a problem on the >> trails - but it is long gone. >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 1:07 PM Barbara Peskin <bpeski...@gmail.com >> <mailto:bpeski...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Correction - 8 miles to 19... >> >> Hi Lincoln Talk, >> I haven't had a chance to read all the comments but I know people have >> mentioned that the Conservation Commission is meeting tonight and vote on >> whether to enact proposed changes to trail use that include going from 8 to >> 19 miles of trails for recreational bike use and giving permits to large >> bike groups to use the trails and parking areas. >> >> As a 25+ year walker on Lincoln Trails and cherisher of nature on those >> walks, my main concern with proposed changes is that it will invite metro >> west bike groups to our trails and parking areas. I sent in a detailed >> letter and attended both forums. I can't attend tonight but my hope is they >> will postpone enacting changes and hear from more walkers and nature >> cherishers. >> >> If you would like to get a copy of my letter which is in the public record >> I'm happy to share it - it will give you more info. >> >> I've seen other wonderful arguments and letters asking to keep bike groups >> off the trails for a variety of reasons as well. >> >> I'll close here with the thought that at the last forum one LIncoln biker >> said he appreciates nature when biking on the trails alone - unfortunately >> the proposed sweeping changes to the trail use all over town is going to >> bring in bike groups - it's not about one or two Lincoln bike riders. >> >> Thanks for listening. 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