Hi Dennis,

There will be a Lincoln Squirrel article appearing on the website late tomorrow 
that will answer at least some of your questions. 

Alice Waugh
Editor, The Lincoln Squirrel and The Lincoln Chipmunk
[email protected]
617-710-5542 (mobile)


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> On Jan 16, 2022, at 3:03 PM, Dennis Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Curious, so a few more questions.  Perhaps the Conservation Commission has 
> already studied this, given Joan’s point?  Would appreciate any answers/data.
>  
> What’s the acceptable level of sodium in drinking water?
> Do we have data on the level of sodium in Lincoln public drinking water?
> Do we have data on the level of sodium in private wells in Lincoln?
> Do we have data on how sodium levels in Lincoln are being affected by road 
> salt, rather than any natural fluctuations in sodium levels?
> Does this data cover salting from Route 2 (is that done by state DPW), versus 
> residential roads?  Studies show that most of the salting is from highway use.
> If so, do we then have any studies that show it’s road salt from being spread 
> on roads, rather than leaking from storage – which is the leading cause of 
> salt entering water supplies?
> If we don’t have this data, then on what basis should we have concern about 
> this issue affecting drinking water in Lincoln?
>  
> I would also ask the same questions – replacing impact on human drinking 
> water with questions on data showing adverse impacts on wildlife.
>  
> This is a somewhat dated but completely on-topic report:  
> https://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/sr/sr235/099-112.pdf 
>  
> Perhaps it’d be helpful to all of us and the Town to get some answers on this 
> before calling up and lobbying the DPW?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> --Dennis
>  
> From: Joan Kimball <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 2:39 PM
> To: Dennis Liu <[email protected]>
> Cc: LincolnTalk.org <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Too much - or too little - salt on the road
>  
> When I was on the Conservation Commission we were concerned about salt 
> because of health of the wetlands and protecting our drinking water supply, 
> all of which is contained and originates in Lincoln.
>  
> Joan
>  
>  
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, 2:34 PM Dennis Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since this seems to be a growing conversation, a couple of points as food for 
> thought.
>  
> As with everything else involving politics and public works, we have to ask 
> ourselves when considering taking action – “what are the TRADEOFFS for taking 
> a proposed action?”  Or “Every benefit has a cost; what is it in this case?”
>  
> It’s not only the impact on the town budget (for the salt, and for the DPW 
> crew’s time).  It’s also about SAFETY.
>  
> What’s the cost of avoiding an accident?  Every year, 1,300 people are killed 
> and 116,800 people are injured due to vehicle accidents on snow, slushy or 
> icy pavement.  What’s the cost of a life lost, or injury suffered?  
>  
> What about the cost of damaging or destroying a vehicle – and whatever the 
> vehicle hits?  Pedestrians struck in crosswalks or on sidewalks?  Damaged 
> telephone poles, buildings, signs, parked cars?
>  
> And let’s not forget the massive associated costs – lawsuits.  Why do 
> businesses seemingly always “oversalt” their parking lots, roads and paths?  
> Because it’s a really, really common and easy-to-win lawsuit.  The cost of 
> putting down ice melt is a tiny, tiny cost of paying for a lawsuit, even with 
> insurance.  Indeed, some insurance policies require plowing and salting.
>  
> So, from the Town’s perspective – the “cost” for salting the roads is a 
> combination of the actual expense for the salt, the cost for DPW time (and 
> amortized expense of running salters), and, arguably, the externality cost of 
> having some degree of “excess” salt entering into water.  The “benefit” of 
> salting, even salting to “excess”, is the avoidance of lawsuits, and avoiding 
> more accidents, causing harm to life, limb and property.
>  
> Avoiding excessive salting is a good thing!  But if the Town is unable to lay 
> down some perceived “perfect” quantity of salt, given the constantly changing 
> weather conditions, surely it’d be better to oversalt by some degree, given 
> the inherent risks?
>  
> I urge everyone concerned about this issue to study NOT ONLY the impact of 
> road salt on water and wildlife, but also take into account the impact of a 
> life lost – perhaps a friend or loved one – as well as the economic impact 
> from these accidents. 
>  
> HTH,
>  
> --Dennis
>  
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