On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:10 AM Tom Gall <tom.g...@linaro.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 8:46 AM Steve McIntyre > <steve.mcint...@linaro.org> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 02:11:10PM +0000, Graeme Gregory wrote: > > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 14:03, Tom Gall <tom.g...@linaro.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Wookey, > > >> > > >> This was something bouncing around in the Graphics Working Group back > > >> in the day. Alexandros as I recall was the key dev. As far as a shim > > >> goes given the effort that would have been involved and the lack of > > >> interest, it wasn't worked on. > > >> > > >> For ARM64 and QT would a move to GLES be a "good thing?" Yes. > > >> > > >> When it comes to graphics drivers today for arm hardware GLES is > > >> pretty universal. GLES is a standard, there is compliance through > > > > > >*Shouts* ThunderX2 Workstation very loudly at this point, following by > > >Linaro Developer Box, Macchiato bin..... > > > > > >Linaro is more than Android! > > > > Quite. This is exactly the tension behind the dicussion - while arm64 > > machines are mainly mobile so far, we're finally starting to see > > bigger and more capable systems that you'd actually be happy to use as > > a desktop/laptop. > > > > Hence Wookey's question - is it possible to have a single sensible > > answer for both the (large) mobile hardware user base and the > > (smaller, but growing) bigger system users? We've seen conflicting > > information in that thread, hence asking here! :-) > > That is Vulkan. There is no mobile&embedded vs desktop fracture > like there is with GLES vs GL. In the design of the Vulkan standard > that was one mistake they were trying to address. > > I personally would aim for Vulkan.
Plus there are several active efforts to do GL/GLES on top of Vulkan. > > Is it true that most PCIe graphics cards (and drivers) will also > > support GLES as well as GL? I've seen that asserted. > > As a litmus test, I don't see any GLES drivers on nVideas website. > Both Vulkan and GL are there tho. Intel supports GLES 1 and 2. And I think you can say any h/w Mesa supports, supports both GL and GLES. At least to some version level. Rob _______________________________________________ linaro-dev mailing list linaro-dev@lists.linaro.org https://lists.linaro.org/mailman/listinfo/linaro-dev