On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 9:10 AM Tom Gall <tom.g...@linaro.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 8:46 AM Steve McIntyre
> <steve.mcint...@linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 02:11:10PM +0000, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> > >On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 14:03, Tom Gall <tom.g...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Wookey,
> > >>
> > >> This was something bouncing around in the Graphics Working Group back
> > >> in the day. Alexandros as I recall was the key dev. As far as a shim
> > >> goes given the effort that would have been involved and the lack of
> > >> interest, it wasn't worked on.
> > >>
> > >> For ARM64 and QT would a move to GLES be a "good thing?"  Yes.
> > >>
> > >> When it comes to graphics drivers today for arm hardware GLES is
> > >> pretty universal. GLES is a standard, there is compliance through
> > >
> > >*Shouts* ThunderX2 Workstation very loudly at this point, following by
> > >Linaro Developer Box, Macchiato bin.....
> > >
> > >Linaro is more than Android!
> >
> > Quite. This is exactly the tension behind the dicussion - while arm64
> > machines are mainly mobile so far, we're finally starting to see
> > bigger and more capable systems that you'd actually be happy to use as
> > a desktop/laptop.
> >
> > Hence Wookey's question - is it possible to have a single sensible
> > answer for both the (large) mobile hardware user base and the
> > (smaller, but growing) bigger system users? We've seen conflicting
> > information in that thread, hence asking here! :-)
>
> That is Vulkan. There is no mobile&embedded vs desktop fracture
> like there is with GLES vs GL. In the design of the Vulkan standard
> that was one mistake they were trying to address.
>
> I personally would aim for Vulkan.

Plus there are several active efforts to do GL/GLES on top of Vulkan.

> > Is it true that most PCIe graphics cards (and drivers) will also
> > support GLES as well as GL? I've seen that asserted.
>
> As a litmus test, I don't see any GLES drivers on nVideas website.
> Both Vulkan and GL are there tho.

Intel supports GLES 1 and 2. And I think you can say any h/w Mesa
supports, supports both GL and GLES. At least to some version level.

Rob
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