David Kastrup wrote > Gilberto Agostinho < > gilbertohasnofb@
> > writes: >> Regardless of that, I really hope I didn't gave the impression I want >> to force people to change certain things on LilyPond only because of >> what I think. > Why would you want them to do anything other than what you think? You seem to have a problem to grasp the difference between these two concepts: a) to force people to do something b) to explain your point of view, so that people might agree with you in order to do something What I meant is: yes, I would love that every one in this planet would agree with me all the time, but in case they don't, I am really not the kind of person who would put a gun on their faces and say "do it anyway". David Kastrup wrote >> I already exposed my thoughts, and that is all. People are invited to >> discuss, agree or disagree with me, and I am happy with any of >> those. In this particular subject, my views seem to be part of a >> minority here, which is totally fair. > > This characterization is _not_ fair. What I have pointed out to you to > your considerable indignation is that agreeing on something, either more > or less or strongly, does not get the job done. > > It would be different if this list was read by a host of coders who are > just bored and waiting for suggestions what to do with their time. > > That is not the case. Any task getting done needs someone postponing > other tasks he himself is working on or interested in. So maybe it is better if I don't propose anything any more so I don't delay any of the other tasks? Or should I myself measure what the developers consider important or not? How does this work, David? David Kastrup wrote > So by far the > most successful way for getting anything done is doing as much of it by > oneself as one can. What if the most one can do by himself is to point out the supposed problem (in the case of non programmers)? I can code a simple function at LilyPond at most, nothing fancier than that. And yet, I thought that I could bring some interesting points due to being occupied with classical music full time . David Kastrup wrote > That may include shepherding the discussion and > boiling it down to identifiable issues that can be brought to a > conclusion sufficient for the bug squad to pick out concrete issues for > the issue tracker. And isn't this what I constantly try to do here? I propose a discussion, and then there are two possible outcomes: - A lot of people agree and a new post is added on the issue tracker - Very few people or no one agrees, in which case the post is left forgotten. What seems to be the problem with this particular post here? What did I do differently than the other ones? David Kastrup wrote >> So I will happily leave things as they are and continue to simply use >> my tweaks and overrides as I usually do. > > See, and that's where things get strange: you claim to use tweaks and > overrides to get particular behavior, but you don't share them as part > of getting the weight lifted and making people see how to go about the > change. They may be a bad idea, but they are at least a starting point. > It's much easier mentally to tell somebody how he could do something > better than it is to write stuff up from scratch. There is nothing "strange" here, David. Everything I did is clearly stated all over the place: - About the beams, I posted a file named beam.ly and an image named beam.png in the first message of this post. There you will see how I tweak the beams to get what I want - About the spacing, as I stated before on the message you "claim" to have read, "I am no programmer on this level and on this particular case I do not know how to improve it. ". On top of that, in the first message of this post, I added the files spacing.ly and spacing.png. These two are not solutions because they are silly (I just manually moved the grobs around), but it illustrates clearly what I think would be best. - In the "sister" post about bar numbers, I posted my tweaks in an image bar_no.png. Nobody seemed interested in that, but if anyone wants, I am happy to share my code. So tell me please what is still """strange""" here? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Beam-positions-and-time-signature-spacing-tp153538p153776.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
