On 08/16/2013 05:00 AM, Christian Andersson wrote: > I work most efficiently > with quite large orchestral scores using Lilypond, vi(1), sed(1), Bourne > shell and GNU make (and a PDF viewer). ... [I]n my > experience it is quite hard to get MacOS users well accustomed to > working in the terminal.
Don't forget: it's not just comfort with the terminal, it's also textual editing of an almost entirely non-textual document (at least the way I see it). As someone who is only a very hobbyist musician but *very* comfortable with the command line and Emacs and compilers and Latex and etc., finding out that Frescobaldi has its point-and-click thing and highlighting of the item under the cursor is what got me to actually start using Lilypond directly (as opposed to through Denemo). Even for me, a typical text editor plus the command line and Lilypond executable is too... intimidating in terms of how long I'm worried it would take to go from "this note is wrong" to finding the corresponding point in the source, considering how often that happens. It doesn't seem to me like searching the document for a particular occurrence of a note would be nearly as easy & fast as finding the place in a Latex document that's wrong. With Frescobaldi, I just click on the wrong note and that's that. (Of course, Frescabaldi isn't the only thing that supports point-and-click, probably not even on Macs.) Actually, if you want to appeal to people like me who are more interested in "I want to write this quickly" than "I want the output to look really good", it may be worthwhile to see if there's anything you can do to draw more attention to the point-and-click feature. For example, the "Easier Editing" page on lilypond.org describes the right-hand pane of Frescabaldi as "a built-in PDF viewer" with no mention of the point-and-click feature. I passed over Frescabaldi in favor of Denemo for a while in part because I didn't know about that. The LilyPondTool description on the "Easier Editing" page *does* mention point-and-click support, but doesn't actually say what point-and-click *is*. For people like me who are dense (and likely only somewhat skimming the page), I think you should even say explicitly something like "It's features include ... an embedded PDF viewer with advanced point-and-click support that allows you to click notes and other graphical items in the score and automatically move the cursor to the corresponding source location." (I had good experiences with Denemo too, but switched to "raw" Lilypond using Frescabaldi for... well, reasons.) Evan
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