Which version of Sibelius?  I believe it was Sibelius 7 that introduced the
"magnetic layout" feature which moves things around as you place them.  Of
course, that's still nothing like Lilypond.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Shann" <
> richard.sh...@virgin.net>
> To: "Urs Liska" <u...@openlilylib.org>
> Cc: <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Comparing LilyPond with Sibelius, Finale, Musescore etc
>
>
>
>  On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 15:12 +0200, Urs Liska wrote:
>>
>>> Am 23.07.2013 15:09, schrieb Richard Shann:
>>> > On Sun, 2013-07-21 at 14:03 +0200, Urs Liska wrote:
>>> >> Am 20.07.2013 17:57, schrieb Richard Shann:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I have been compiling some examples of LilyPond's typesetting >>>
>>> compared
>>> >>> with those of well-known alternatives:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> http://denemo.org/**CompareScorewriters<http://denemo.org/CompareScorewriters>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If anyone can provide better examples - these are just taken from
>>> >>> published work that I could find with a quick search - then please
>>> >>> let
>>> >>> me know - especially if I am not doing LilyPond justice.
>>> >>> My examples have a common origin in MusicXML files, but there may be
>>> >>> some other way of standardizing the comparisons (short of re-typing
>>> >>> music examples...).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Richard
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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>>> >> What about the LilyPond and Finale renderings on that page:
>>> >> http://lilypond.ursliska.de/**notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/**
>>> tackle-complex-tasks/part-2-**improving-the-output.html<http://lilypond.ursliska.de/notensatz/lilypond-tutorials/tackle-complex-tasks/part-2-improving-the-output.html>
>>> ?
>>> > Reading this page I see you refer to "the model" but it is not so clear
>>> > what this is
>>> In this case the printed score from which I typeset the example with
>>> LilyPond and someone else with Finale 2008.
>>>
>>
>> Ah, I see, you are able to talk about "Enter the plain music, correctly
>> assign voices and don't apply any manual corrections" in the context of
>> Finale - with many such programs you cannot certain markings or text
>> without manually positioning it, it just floats at the end of the mouse
>> pointer until you click.
>>
>
>
> Without wishing to bias any result, I have to say that Sibelius is
> _appalling_ at placing lyrics by default.
>
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