Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu> writes: > On 12/21/10 12:51 AM, "David Kastrup" <d...@gnu.org> wrote: > >> You can't really calculate [position] all too well. In "first >> position", the pinky is in the current scale a fifth above the empty >> string. In "half position", it is a diminuished fifth, while the >> index finger is a half step above the empty string (if the index >> finger is a half step above the empty string, but the pinky is still >> a full fifth, it is not "half position" since you can still sound the >> next empty string). >> >> In "third" position, the index finger is a fourth above the empty >> string. Basically, the position more or less concerns the relation >> between the current scale and the hand position and fingering and is a >> somewhat fuzzy concept when the number of accidentals rises. > > There is a fingering chart that shows first and third position fingerings > here: > > http://www.violinonline.com/fingerboard_chart.htm > > If this chart is to be believed, first position spans from the first "fret" > to the seventh "fret". Third position spans from the fifth "fret" to the > tenth "fret".
That's not quite reliable. For example, if we are in E major and finger on the G string a, b, c#', d#', we are actually playing in _second_ position (because the "low" first position would start at g#). > There is also an advanced fingering chart here: > > http://www.violinonline.com/fingeringchart-advanced.htm It says: "Although flats and sharps are not shown (accidentals), the same finger is generally used for raised or lowered notes (e.g. on the E string, 1st finger is used for F & F#)." Since you obviously can't play raised or lowered notes on an empty string, this rule falls down pretty soon when your accidentals don't allow empty strings to be played. > If this is correct, we could calculate the position given the number > of the fret for the first finger. Well, what if the first finger is not even played? > And we would just need to add a fretboard property describing the > fret-label scheme. Then we could display a position number. I just doubt we can meaningfully shorten the threadboard pattern and still arrive at an unambiguous chart. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
