Hi Marc, Carl and David, On 21/12/10 07:51, David Kastrup wrote: > Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu> writes: > >> On 12/20/10 8:57 PM, "Marc Mouries" <m...@mouries.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> The fret diagram prints a fret number indication on the right that is >>> confusing from a Violinist perspective. >>> Is there any option for the fret diagram not to print it? >> >> Unfortunately, right now there is no way to change it. >> >>> >>> For instance, in the 2nd D chord i'd like to get rid of the "iv" or >>> print "i" >>> because on the Violin it is more helpful to think in terms of position than >>> fret as there is none. >> >> So do you want fret indications in your violin "fret" diagrams? >> >> And how is the position calculated? > > You can't really calculate it all too well. In "first position", the > pinky is in the current scale a fifth above the empty string. In "half > position", it is a diminuished fifth, while the index finger is a half > step above the empty string (if the index finger is a half step above > the empty string, but the pinky is still a full fifth, it is not "half > position" since you can still sound the next empty string). > > In "third" position, the index finger is a fourth above the empty > string. Basically, the position more or less concerns the relation > between the current scale and the hand position and fingering and is a > somewhat fuzzy concept when the number of accidentals rises. > I think it means slightly different things for different instruments, Some years ago I learnt some very basic Classical Guitar.
If I remember right, 'position' meant you moved the thumb up behind a fret as if you were getting ready to barré a chord. So first position meant your thumb was behind the fifth fret (i.e. a fourth up). It looks like violin/viola/cello naming/numbering of positions is different because the instruments are tuned with intervals of a fifth between the strings instead of a fourth. >> It seems possible that we could put an option in to label the position >> instead of the fret. But at this point I don't know how to calculate >> the position. > > The position is not independent of the fingering. Indicating a position > would only make sense in fret diagrams if you also spell out the > fingering. I don't know whether there is any established scheme for > that with violins. > Don't know. Playing noddy-level classical guitar was as far as I got in finding out about the Dark Side (string-playing). Maybe better-informed people (Graham?) can let us know about all this. Then we can work out what the user requirement may be. Then we (probably Carl) can determine whether we can/should extend the fretboard facilities to cater for it. Cheers, Ian _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user