Which is why I and probably many others have a separate common or timing definition that has time signatures and spacing and anything common to all parts:

timing = {

  time 4/4

 \grace s8 s1*[whatever}, etc.

}

music = \fixed c'' { \acciaccatura{ d16 d } [firstNote, etc. }

part = << \timing \music >>

HTH,

Paul


On 12/8/24 11:28 AM, carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote:

Steph,

Every instrument/voice must start with the same grace or acciaccatura.

Either with a pitch or with a spacer, “s”, and of the same duration.

Mark

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*Subject:* Re[2]: Start of Score Grace Note Spacing

Well, adding a spacer rest in the beginning of the acciaccaturas seemed to help a little, but now we're back to the original issue of the time/key sigs and clefs not being engraved until after the grace notes

~Steph

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Date 12/8/2024 9:45:08 AM

Subject Re: Start of Score Grace Note Spacing

    It looks to me that you should have chosen eighths.

    HTH,

    Paul

    On 12/8/24 10:40 AM, Steph Phillips wrote:

        Hmm, I set everything to 16's and it seems more confused now.

        ~Steph

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        Date 12/8/2024 9:29:06 AM

        Subject RE: Start of Score Grace Note Spacing

            Steph,

            Make the grace and the acciaccatura the same duration.

            Either both 8 or both 16.

            Mark

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            *Subject:* Re: Start of Score Grace Note Spacing

            Edit:

            Here's the code I'm using for the percussion and violin
            staves

            Percussion:

            \NumberOneSetup \clef bass  \key c \major

            \InstrumentChange "Timpani" #-0.5

            \grace { a16 a } a2-> \ff r |

            -and-

            Violin:

            \NumberOneSetup \clef treble  \key c \major

            \acciaccatura { g8( } a^^) \sfz r r4 c''2 \ff |

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            Date 12/8/2024 8:59:41 AM

            Subject Start of Score Grace Note Spacing

                Hi all!

                I've got some parts that have grace notes at the very
                beginning. The grace notes are appearing before the
                initial clefs, time sigs, and key sigs. It's hard to
                describe, please check out the attached image.

                I'm sure there's some setting I'm missing, but I could
                use some help on this one. 🙂

                ~Steph

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