OK thanks everyone. It is clearly moving things around to get the two notes tucked together without interfering. The prefer-dotted-right override only works on the upper note. I was just surprised to see so many different shifts in one line of music, but that’s what it takes to keep everything clear.
Thanks, Carolyn > On Aug 1, 2023, at 12:11 PM, Abraham Lee <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:12 AM Carolyn Beeton <carolyn.bee...@icloud.com > <mailto:carolyn.bee...@icloud.com>> wrote: >> Thanks Abraham >> >> I have read that section again and I am still a bit confused at what I am >> seeing in this attempt at a MWE. In bar 2 the voiceTwo notes are shifted >> right, but in bar 5 the voiceOne note, a dotted note, is being shifted to >> the right. I have tried using the Staff.NoteCollision.prefer-dotted-right >> override but that doesn’t seem to help. In bar 7 there is a different >> construct with temporary voices and there the shifting looks like what I >> want. I am trying to get the dotted stemUp note in bar 5 to be shifted left. >> >> <PastedGraphic-1.png> >> >> \version "2.24.0" >> \include "english.ly <http://english.ly/>" >> >> SopranoMusic = \relative c' >> { >> fs4 fs e | d d d | b'2 b4 | a d, e | d2.^\markup "why right?" | s2. | s2. >> } >> >> AltoMusic = \relative c' >> { >> d4 d cs | b cs c | b2 d4 | d d cs | d4 d e | << { fs4 e d | e2. } \\ { d2 >> s4 | d b cs } >> >> } >> >> \score { >> \new Staff >> << >> \key d \major >> \time 3/4 >> \new Voice = "sopranos" >> { >> \override Staff.NoteCollision.prefer-dotted-right = ##f >> \voiceOne >> << >> { \SopranoMusic } >> >> >> } >> \new Voice = "altos" >> { >> \voiceTwo >> << >> { \AltoMusic } >> >> >> } >> >> >> \layout { } >> } >> >> Thanks, >> Carolyn >> >>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 10:36 PM, Abraham Lee <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Carolyn! >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 8:22 AM Carolyn Beeton <carolyn.bee...@icloud.com >>> <mailto:carolyn.bee...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>>> The default when there are two voices with colliding notes is to shift the >>>> voice with upstems (odd-numbered voices) to the right and voices with >>>> downstems to the left. I would like the opposite - i.e. voiceOne, with >>>> stems up, shifted left. Is this possible? (not as a single override, but >>>> throughout the entire piece) >>> >>> I trust you've seen this section in the NR on collision resolution, but if >>> not, here it is: >>> >>> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices#collision-resolution >>> >>> >>> Do any of these techniques not help? And if not, perhaps you could show a >>> screenshot or provide a small example of the shifting you don't want so we >>> can target the problem. > > I won't pretend to understand the internal mechanism that decides which side > the notes should go on, but I would have expected the correction to work as > you did with prefer-dotted-right = ##f, which it doesn't. I also tried the > NoteColumn.force-hshift property, which kind of works. The note would move > successfully, but the dot wouldn't go with it. This would also need to be a > local override and unable to control it globally. > > What is done is conventional notation, but I'm curious what is driving your > need to move d2. to the left in m.5? If it's for clarity, I wouldn't > recommend it, but maybe you have a different reason. > > Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, > Abraham
