On Wed 09 Oct 2019 at 09:16:27 (-0500), Patrick Karl wrote: > On 10/8/19 1:58 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > > I don't understand why the extender includes the d4 in the third measure. > > Because you didn’t tell it to stop extending. ;) > I thought the single "__" initiated an extender that ended either at > the end of the current note, in the case of a sequence of tied notes > (which creates a single note), or at the end of the slur if a slur > starts on the current note.
I think you're conflating melismas (§ Multiple notes to one syllable) and Extenders. The latter are normally stopped by the next lyric. > If that's true, then, since the initial > c1 can't be and isn't tied to the d4 and the initial c1 is not slurred > to the d4, I had in effect told it to stop extending. "In effect", you hadn't. > If I wanted > the extender to include the d4, I would (should) have written the > extender as "__ _". And for some reason that I can't find explained > in the Notation RM, LilyPond evidently assumed that that ("__ _") is > what I had written. No, \skip and _ don't behave the same. Basically, \skip is impotent: it just uses up time. It doesn't create anything, but it doesn't stop anything either. _ is quite different in that it signals that the notes it is set to are part of a melisma. One difference is masked by the fact that your first note has a tie. If you remove it, you can see the effect of _ on c' and, less dramatically, on e'. > > > Is there a way to shorten it to the tied c1 in the second measure? > > If you really want a gap [under the d], then use > > > > %%% SNIPPET BEGINS > > \version "2.19.83" > > music = \relative c' { > > c1 ~ c1 > > d4 e f g } > > > > words = \lyricmode { Tra __ \markup \null la la la } And, of course, you can define your melisma-stopper as a variable, like n = \markup { \null }, used as just \n. Cheers, David.
\version "2.19.83" music = \relative c' { c1 d4 e f g } words = \lyricmode { Traditional \skip4 lah \skip4 lah } \score { \new Staff \music \addlyrics \words } words = \lyricmode { Traditional _ lah _ lah } \score { \new Staff \music \addlyrics \words }
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