This is actually perfect. I already have a script eliminating all but the first semibreve in a series, so this is exactly what I was looking for.
Thanks so much! *Benjamin Bloomfield* On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 3:41 AM Alexander Kobel <a-ko...@a-kobel.de> wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > > the closest we have available to eliminate spurious space between > syllables is described in the thread culminating in > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2019-05/msg00389.html > > (I'm not the author of the snippet, just the bearer of the full include > file in this thread. All credits to David, Mike, and Harm.) > > Just \include this file, and add > > \context { > \Lyrics > \override LyricWord.after-line-breaking = #(lyric-word-compressor 0.5) > \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-distance = #0 > \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-length = #0 > } > > to your layout block (or use the equivalent locally inside the lyrics, > where necessary). > > Alas, I'm afraid it generally won't give pleasant results for the type > of chant you have in your example (look at "bestower" and "power"): > There, the text widths dominate the note widths by quite a bit, and what > you (most likely) actually want is a "seemless" spacing of the lyrics > and note heads that are centered over the corresponding syllables. > > AFAICS this is unsupported for the time being, as Lily tries to space > out the note heads fairly according to rhythmical concerns, while > acknowledging lyric widths as constraints; you'd need the other way around. > > > However, that's just the technical state-of-the-art, as far as I am > aware. From a more practical perspective, and independent of typesetting > difficulty, I'd prefer to see only *one* breve note head for repetitions > on the same note in chants, rather than one per syllable (and texts > left-aligned to those breves); see > > > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/working-with-ancient-music_002d_002dscenarios-and-solutions#transcribing-gregorian-chant > > Perhaps this is the actual solution to your problem. > > And if you insist on automatic linebreaking, try to ... Okay, I see now > that I wanted to suggest exactly what you described in your second mail. > Maybe the above solution works after all, in your full context. Good luck! > > > HTH, > Alex > > > On 25.07.19 04:27, Vaughan McAlley wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 at 09:29, Benjamin Bloomfield <bhb...@gmail.com > > <mailto:bhb...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > No, I should have explained that I have further things going on in > > my full source code that remove the semibreves unless they are the > > first one or the first in the system, and the hyphenations are given > > so that a reasonable point can be chosen for the system breaks even > > if it's in the middle of a word. I have everything working nicely > > except for the slight bit of extra space between syllables. > > > > Sorry I forgot to mention why I have the hyphenation points marked, > > because you're right, the solution you give is the obvious one if I > > didn't need those hyphenation points for the possible line breaks. > > > > Thanks, > > > > /Benjamin Bloomfield/ > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 6:02 PM Brian Barker > > <b.m.bar...@btinternet.com <mailto:b.m.bar...@btinternet.com>> > wrote: > > > > At 15:54 24/07/2019 -0400, you wrote: > > >I've been trying to totally get rid of the space > > >where a lyric hyphen might go, in cases where > > >that space is already very small, but I have not > > >been able to figure it out. Is there a way to > > >get rid of these spaces instead of having them > > >still present as empty space? I want the > > >syllables to be as close to each other as if they were a single > > syllable. > > > > If you don't want the space, don't put it in! If > > you want "Holy", enter "Holy", not "Ho -- ly". If > > you then want that word to fit one note, use "Holy_". Thus: > > Draw near, Lord, Holy_ Father,_ almighty__ and e -- ter -- nal > God, > > with > > a'8 c1 c c c c c c \divisioMinima b8 a b \divisioMaior > > > > But isn't the way such music is usually set with > > a single semibreve for all the syllables that are chanted to it? > > Draw "near, Lord, Holy Father, almighty and e" -- ter -- nal God, > > a'8 c1 \divisioMinima b8 a b \divisioMaior > > > > Now all you probably have to do is to move the > > semibreve back to over the word "near," ... > > > > I trust this helps. > > > > Brian Barker - privately > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > > > > It looks like all those semibreves, even if they are changed to a short > > length, want to take up room because they are a big symbol. If you > > remove all overrides to lyric hyphens, the syllables come together > > unless they are smaller than the breve symbol. Changing the X-extent of > > noteheads makes all the widths dependent on the syllables, but > > introduces further issues: > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > \version "2.19.81" > > > > \include "gregorian.ly <http://gregorian.ly>" > > > > antiphonText = \lyricmode { > > Draw near, Lord, Ho -- ly Fa -- ther, > > al -- might -- y and e -- ter -- nal God, > > au -- thor of hu -- man dig -- ni -- ty and be -- stow -- er of all grac > > -- es, > > through whom all things pro -- gress, > > through whom eve -- ry -- thing is made firm, > > who, by the pow -- er of the Ho -- ly Spir -- it, > > in or -- der to form a priest -- ly peo -- ple, > > es -- tab -- lish a -- mong them min -- is -- ters of Christ your Son in > > var -- i -- ous or -- ders. > > > > } > > > > > > aSop = \transpose c c { > > %\revert LyricHyphen.minimum-distance > > \relative c' { > > \cadenzaOn > > a'8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c > > \bar"" \divisioMinima > > c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" b8 \bar"" a > > \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior > > a8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c > > \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" b8 \bar"" a \bar"" b > > \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior > > a8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" > > \divisioMinima > > c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" b8 \bar"" a > > \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior > > a8 \bar"" c\breve*1/1024 \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c \bar"" c > > \bar"" b8 \bar"" a \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMaior > > b\breve*1/1024 \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" a8 > > \bar"" b \bar"" c \bar"" b \bar"" \divisioMinima \break > > b\breve*1/1024 \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b > > \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" b \bar"" g8 > > \bar"" a \bar"" b \bar"" a \bar"" a \bar"" \divisioMaxima > > \cadenzaOff > > } > > } > > > > > > \score { > > << > > \new Staff > > << > > \clef "treble" > > \new Voice = "sop" { \voiceOne \aSop } > > >> > > \new Lyrics \lyricsto sop \antiphonText > > >> > > \layout { > > \context { \Voice > > \override NoteHead.X-extent = #'(0 . 0) > > } > > \context { \Lyrics > > \override LyricText #'font-family = #'normal > > % \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-distance = #1.0 > > % \override LyricHyphen #'minimum-length = #0.3 > > > > > > > > %\override LyricHyphen #'minimum-length = #1.5 > > %\override LyricHyphen #'padding = #0 > > } > > } > > } > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > Vaughan > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >
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