Am 10.12.18 um 12:18 schrieb Andrew Bernard:
Hi Rutger, this is great.

But I think you mean this page:

https://wim.vree.org/svgParse/abc2xml.html

[Took me a while to figure that out.]

I conclude it's not worth spending any energy on lilypond abc2ly. Sounds like it should even be dropped, and perhaps the NR could day how to achieve ABC to lilypond.


It sounds reasonable to drop the current abc2ly implementation. However, I think we shouldn't do this without somehow including abc2xml in the distribution and (probably) create a wrapper script abc2ly that transparently replaces the old implementation and calls abc2xml | musicxml2ly instead.

Urs


Andrew



On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 21:38, Rutger Hofman <rut...@cs.vu.nl <mailto:rut...@cs.vu.nl>> wrote:

    On 10-12-18 10:40, Andrew Bernard wrote:
    > Hi Johan,
    >
    > Having recently become interested in Irish Traditional Music
    where there
    > are countless tens of thousands of tunes in ABC, the de facto
    standard
    > for the tradition, I'd be keen to see abc2ly brought up to date. My
    > tests with it on a sample of several tunes from thesession.org
    <http://thesession.org>
    > <http://thesession.org> can only be described as abject failures.
    >
    > It would be great to have a current working version that
    operates really
    > well, as the output from most of the ABC software available is
    dismal
    > compared to lilypond. Although 'the dots' are frowned upon in ITM
    > performance, it's handy to have a score to print out while
    learning a tune.
    >
    > Is anybody interested in taking this on? I'd be happy to lend a
    hand as
    > well. At least we would be working towards a mature and non-moving
    > standard as regards ABC, so that's one good thing.
    >
    >
    > Andrew
    >
    >
    >
    > On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 19:31, Johan Vromans
    <jvrom...@squirrel.nl <mailto:jvrom...@squirrel.nl>
    > <mailto:jvrom...@squirrel.nl <mailto:jvrom...@squirrel.nl>>> wrote:
    >
    >
    >     Is the abc2ly program still under active
    support/development? If so, are
    >     there any plans to upgrade it to the newer standard?
    >

    Isn't it possible (and easy) to use Wim Vree's utility abc2xml, see
    https://wim.vree.org/svgParse/xml2abc.html to convert to MusicXML and
    then convert the MusicXML into lilypond? From a
    maintenance/engineering
    view, it is much preferable to have one 'intermediate' to convert
    to/from, in stead of a separate converter package for each notation
    system to be converted.

    Wim's converter is listed in the 6-of-the-best for ABC, see
    
http://abcnotation.com/blog/2017/11/12/6-of-the-best-a-guide-to-abc-software/

    .

    Rutger


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