Am 28.11.2016 um 00:41 schrieb Chris Yate: > Hi Jacques, > > I don't know... It seems ridiculous that they have no common format - > but it's a relatively tiny industry... But I doubt the big houses > like Peters and Barenreiter use either Sibelius or Finale...
The big houses more or less *exclusively* use Sibelius and Finale in parallel, with a very low share still using SCORE and an actually tiny share using Amadeus. Breitkopf just last year decided to quit any diversity and to move everything to Sibelius. > > In the larger world of office IT, Microsoft have dealt with the issue > of everyone expecting to be able to share and consume MS Word > documents by supporting ODF, though it's still a problem that some > people expect to receive only .doc files. > > Anyway, I'm sure there would be Sibelius and Finale output converters > for Lilypond, but that these file formats are proprietary. This is only true in a hypothetical sense. Due to lack of resources we only have an extremely rudimentary MusicXML export so far (the fact that this is due to the single (!) developer working on it having taken a full-time job speaks volumes, I think). There has been a few attempts in recent years to improve the situation, but in the end it boils down to the fact that this will only happen with some substantial external funding. > It makes me sad that they don't see a market in inter-operability. If > you're certain of the benefits of your software over another, then > it's a real sign of confidence to be able to export and import to and > from all of the alternatives. If I'm not mistaken completely for the better part of its lifetime LilyPond was considered the last exit of a one-way street, i.e. it was considered useful to convert documents *to* LilyPond, but who would ever need anything *after* it ... Fortunately this attitude isn't that strong anymore, but still the resources to change the situation are missing. Urs > > > > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 at 23:20 Jacques Menu Muzhic > <imj-muz...@bluewin.ch <mailto:imj-muz...@bluewin.ch>> wrote: > > Hello Chris, > > How does Finale behave in the commercial publishing industry, > compared to Sibelius, in terms of market share? > >> Le 28 nov. 2016 à 00:03, Chris Yate <chrisy...@gmail.com >> <mailto:chrisy...@gmail.com>> a écrit : >> >> Hi Andrew >> >> >> >> Apologies in advance, I'm going to be *that guy*... ;-) >> >> >> For what it’s worth, I’m a huge fan of Linux, Lilypond and Muse >> and all the other wonderful **free** tools that we have >> available.... BUT if I was in any sense interested in working >> with a commercial publisher – especially for paid work, I >> wouldn’t mess about. I’d buy a copy of Windows, if I didn’t >> already own one, and then buy a copy of Sibelius. That’s just >> what they expect; and quite reasonably, as it's the industry >> standard! >> >> >> Also, if you’re expected to give them a well-presented score >> rather than just the notes, you’re going to need to do some work, >> possibly quite a bit, within Sib. Photoscore will give you the >> music entry at higher speed than manual entry, but in my >> experience of Sibelius (mainly the now old version 3), getting a >> piece to performance quality output requires quite a lot >> of manual work to move symbols and so on about. (Though it's >> possible they've improved this by version 7, and some of my >> friends that use it say this is the case). >> >> >> Best of luck :) >> >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 at 22:22 Laura Conrad <lcon...@laymusic.org >> <mailto:lcon...@laymusic.org>> wrote: >> >> >>>>> "Jacques" == Jacques Menu Muzhic <imj-muz...@bluewin.ch >> <mailto:imj-muz...@bluewin.ch>> writes: >> >> Jacques> Oups, totally forgot I had tested it two years >> ago, my >> Jacques> fault. >> >> So use a different email to get another free trial. >> >> -- >> Laura (mailto:lcon...@laymusic.org >> <mailto:lcon...@laymusic.org>) >> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/116029698292079786511> >> (617) 661-8097 233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139 >> <http://www.laymusic.org/> >> <http://www.serpentpublications.org >> <http://www.serpentpublications.org/>> >> >> I gave Cuellar more chances than my first wife. >> >> Hall of Fame Orioles manager Earl Weaver, after he stuck with >> lefty >> Mike Cuellar way too long, finally pulling him out of the >> rotation >> only to have Cuellar complain about losing his spot. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org <mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> >> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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