jeff covey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Jeff,
> i have some questions about lyrics on this: I've had a look, sorry for this to take so long. It seems that what you have here are three issues > http://jeffcovey.net/music/scores/victoria/o_magnum_mysterium/ > > 1. in measures 11-12 of the soprano part, the extender line should > stretch from "gnum" to "my". because i have two blank lyrics in > there (o ma -- gnum __ _ _ my), it only stretches between the first > two notes. i see in the example in the manual that if i were to > group the notes with a slur, the line would extend the correct > distance. can i accomplish the same without adding a slur? > 2. in the alto part in measures 19-21, the line extends across two > rests. how could i make it stop at the second half note? * do manual melisma > 3. at the end, there should be extender lines from the last syllable > in each part to the double bar. since there's no following note, > lily says "warning: unbound spanner `LyricExtender'" and doesn't > draw them. how could i convince it to do it? * lilypond bug I'm adding this file input/bugs/melisma-tie-rest.ly: \header{ texidoc = "Lyric extenders that start because of an autmatic tie melisma, extend during a subsequent rest, and cannot be forced to stop." } \score{ < \addlyrics \context Staff = soprano { \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t \context Voice=soprano\notes\relative c'' { c4 ~ c r2 r1 c c4 ~ c \melismaEnd \property Staff.tieMelismaBusy = ##f r2 r1 c } } \context Lyrics = "soprano" \lyrics { hey __ stop? hey __ STOP!!! } > } > 4. a question to see whether i'm missing a feature: when a melisma > stretches across many notes, i'm slipping hyphens in where it seems > best, and the result looks like morse code: > > al -- le _ -- _ _ _ -- lu _ _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- _ _ _ -- _ -- _ -- _ ja, > > is there a way i can say to lily, "a melisma lasts from this note > to this note. compute the distance and tastefully insert hyphens > at regular intervals."? i'm sure it would do a much better job > than i do. :) * feature request? Attached are some workarounds, have a look if it's ok for you. It may be that your message was just overlooked, but I suspect that the people at lilypond-user (that includes me), are too lazy to download a .ly file and look into your issues. It's a lot less fuss if you'd provide a snippet with a specific problem. Greetings, Jan. \header { mydate = "Time-stamp: \"o_magnum_mysterium.ly was last updated on Wed, 29 May 2002 10:04am\"" filename = "o_magnum_mysterium.ly" title = "O Magnum Mysterium" subtitle = "for mixed chorus, a cappella" opus = "" composer = "Tom\\'as Luis de Victoria (1549-1611)" mutopiatitle = "O Magnum Mysterium" mutopiacomposer = "Tomas Luis de Victoria (1549-1611)" mutopiaopus = "" mutopiainstrument = "Voice (SATB)" source = "Arista Edition" style = "Renaissance" copyright = "Public Domain" maintainer = "jeff covey" maintainerEmail = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" maintainerWeb = "http://pobox.com/~jeff.covey/"; lastupdated = "2002/05/29" } %{ i can't get answers to my questions about this score on lilypond-user, so i'll just contribute it to mutopia as is. here's a copy of my message: i have some questions about lyrics on this: http://jeffcovey.net/music/scores/victoria/o_magnum_mysterium/ 1. in measures 11-12 of the soprano part, the extender line should stretch from "gnum" to "my". because i have two blank lyrics in there (o ma -- gnum __ _ _ my), it only stretches between the first two notes. i see in the example in the manual that if i were to group the notes with a slur, the line would extend the correct distance. can i accomplish the same without adding a slur? do manual melisma see score 2. in the alto part in measures 19-21, the line extends across two rests. how could i make it stop at the second half note? lily bug? -> workarounds, see score 3. at the end, there should be extender lines from the last syllable in each part to the double bar. since there's no following note, lily says "warning: unbound spanner `LyricExtender'" and doesn't draw them. how could i convince it to do it? do manual melimsa 4. a question to see whether i'm missing a feature: when a melisma stretches across many notes, i'm slipping hyphens in where it seems best, and the result looks like morse code: al -- le _ -- _ _ _ -- lu _ _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- _ _ _ -- _ -- _ -- _ ja, is there a way i can say to lily, "a melisma lasts from this note to this note. compute the distance and tastefully insert hyphens at regular intervals."? i'm sure it would do a much better job than i do. :) feature request? %} \version "1.3.148" global = \notes { \key aes \major \time 4/4 \skip 1*39 \bar "||" \skip 1*13 \bar "||" \time 3/4 \skip 2.*14 \bar "||" \time 4/4 \skip 1*8 \bar "|." } sopranoMelody = \notes \relative c'' { c1 f,2 c' ~ c4 c des des c2 r4 f des ees f4. f8 f4 c des c ~ [c8 bes aes g aes bes c aes] [bes aes] [aes g16 f] g2 ~ g f % 10 %% melisma without slur -- jcn %% a1 bes2 a4. bes8 c4 des4. c8 bes4 ~ bes a bes [aes8 g] f4 g aes2 a1 bes2 a4. \melisma bes8 c4 \melismaEnd des4. c8 bes4 ~ bes a bes [aes8 g] f4 g aes2 % 15 r4 f' des ees f4. f8 f4 des bes c des4. des8 des4 c4. bes8 bes4 ~ bes a bes2 % 20 r1 r4 des4 c4. a8 bes4 c des bes des4. des8 des4 des c2 c % 25 a4 c c4. c8 c4 d ees2 des?4 [c8 bes] c2 des c r1 % 30 r4 f, bes2 aes4 f g a bes4. c8 des!4 des c2 r r1 % 35 r4 bes ees2 des4 bes c d ees4. [des8 c bes] bes4 ~ bes [a8 g] a4 a bes2 r % 40 a2. a4 a2 bes a4. bes8 c4 des ~ [des8 c] c4. bes8 bes4 c a2 a4 bes4. bes8 bes2 % 46 r4 bes4. [c8 des bes] c4 f ees2 des4 f ees c des4. [c8 bes aes] [aes g16 f] % 50 g4 g f c' ~ c aes2 des4 ~ [des8 c] bes2 a4 % 53 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'1style bes2 des4 c2 a4 bes4. [aes?8 bes c] des4 c2 des2 bes4 aes2 f4 g4. [f8 g aes] % 60 bes2 a4 bes2. r4 r ees des4. [c8 des bes] c4 [aes8 bes c des] ees2 ees4 des4 f2 % 67 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'C f1 r4 f [f8 ees des c] bes4 ees4. [des8 c bes] %% a4 bes2 a4 bes1 ~ bes ~ bes ~ bes \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##f a4 bes2 a4 bes1\melisma ~ bes ~ bes ~ \melismaEnd bes } altoMelody = \notes \relative c' { r1 r2 f2 ~ f bes, f'2. f4 ges ges f2 r4 f des ees f4. f8 f4 c des f2 [e8 d] e2 f % 10 f1 f2 f4. g8 aes?4 aes, bes4. c8 des4 c bes f' f ees c4. c8 % 15 %% manual melisma. LilyPond (<= 1.5.58) will automatically start %% a melisma with a tie, but will not stop it just before or during a rest, %% and cannot be convinced to do so. --jcn %% c4 des4. c8 bes4 ~ bes a bes bes' f aes aes4. aes8 aes2 f4 ges4 f2 f ~ c4 des4. c8 bes4 ~ bes a bes bes' f aes aes4. aes8 aes2 f4 ges4 f2 \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##f f \melisma ~ % 20 %% f2 r r4 bes aes4. f8 g4 a bes f f4. f8 f4 g aes2 g \melismaEnd f2 \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t r2 r4 bes aes4. f8 g4 a bes f f4. f8 f4 g aes2 g % 25 f4 aes? aes4. aes8 aes4 aes bes c ~ [c8 bes] bes2 a4 bes f aes?4. [g16 aes] bes4 [aes8 g] f4 c % 30 r2 r4 bes f'2 ees4 c d ees [f8 ees f g] aes4. [g16 aes] bes4 [aes8 g] f2 r4 c % 35 f2 ees4 c [des8 ees f g] aes2 bes4. [aes8 ges f] ges4 f2. f4 d2 r % 40 f2. f4 f2 f f1 ~ f f2 r4 f ~ f f ges4. ges8 % 46 f4 [bes,8 c des ees f g] aes4 aes aes2 f4 f g a bes4. [aes?8 g f] f4 ~ f e f aes ~ [aes8 g f ees] f2 des4 ees f2 % 53 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'1style f2 bes4 aes2 f4 g4. [f8 g aes] bes2 a4 bes2 f4 f2 c4 ees2 ees4 % 60 f4 f2 f2 des4 bes2 a4 bes2 bes'4 aes2 f4 g4. [f8 g aes] bes2 a4 % 67 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'C bes2 r4 f4 [f8 ees des c] bes4 bes' ~ [bes8 aes ges f] es4 ges %f2 r4 c des4. ees8 f4 ges ~ ges f ees4. f8 ges2 f ~ f1 f2 r4 c des4. ees8 f4 ges ~ ges f ees4. f8 ges2 \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##f f \melisma ~ \melismaEnd f1 } tenorMelody = \notes \relative c' { r1 r r r r r r r2 c2 ~ c f,2 % 10 c'2. c4 des des c2 r4 f des ees f4. f8 f4 c des c4. [bes8 aes g] % 15 aes2 bes c des4 f des ees f4. f8 f4 ees des ees c2 bes4 des % 20 c4. a8 bes4 c des bes f'4. f8 ees4 c bes des des4. des8 des4 des ees f2 e4 % 25 f f, f'4. f8 f4 f ees2 ges f r4 bes, f'2 ees4 c d ees % 30 [f8 ees des c bes c des bes] c2. c4 bes2 r4 bes f'2 ees4 c des c4. [bes8 aes g] % 35 aes4 bes2 a4 bes des ees f ges4. [f8 ees des] ees4 des [c8 bes] c4 c bes2 r % 40 c2. c4 c2 des c2. bes4 c2 des c4 c2 c4 % 45 d4. d8 ees4 [bes8 c des ees] f2 des4 ees des2 c4 des des ees f bes,2. des4 c1 aes bes2 c % 53 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'1style bes2 bes4 f'2 f4 ees2 ees4 bes4 f'2 bes,2 des4 c2 aes4 bes4. [aes8 bes c] % 60 des4 c2 bes2 f4 g4 ees2 f2 des'4 c2 aes4 bes2 bes4 bes4 c2 % 67 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'C bes4 des [c8 bes aes g] f4 [bes8 c des ees f des] ees4. f8 [ges f ees des] c4 bes c f [f8 es des c] bes4 des %%ees f ges4. f8 ees2. [d?8 \( c] \) d1 ees f ges4. f8 ees2. [d?8 \( \melisma \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##f c] \melismaEnd \) d1 } bassMelody = \notes \relative c { r1 r r r r r r r r % 10 f1 bes,2 f' ~ f4 f ges ges f2 r4 f des ees f4. f8 % 15 f4 des ges2 f2 bes,4 bes bes' aes des,4. des8 des4 aes' bes ees, f2 bes,4 bes' % 20 aes4. f8 g4 a bes2 r r r4 bes, bes'4. bes8 bes4 bes aes4. bes8 c2 % 25 f,2 r r1 r2 r4 f4 bes2 aes4 f4 g aes bes [aes8 g] % 30 f4. aes8 ges4 ges f2 r r4 ees4 bes'2 aes4 f g aes bes [aes8 g] f4. ees8 % 35 des4 [c8 bes] c4 c bes bes' aes f ees1 f2. f4 bes,2 r % 40 f'2. f4 f2 bes, f'4. g8 a4 bes ~ [bes8 a] a4 bes2 f4 f2 f4 bes4. bes8 ees,2 % 46 bes'2. bes4 aes des, aes'2 des, r r1 r2 f ~ f des ges f % 53 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'1style bes,2 r4 r2. r r r2 bes4 f'2 f4 ees2 ees4 % 60 bes f'2 bes,2 bes4 ees4 c2 bes2 bes4 f'2 f4 ees2 ees4 ges4 f2 % 67 \property Staff.TimeSignature \override #'style = #'C bes,4 bes' [aes8 g f ees des c bes aes] bes2 ees1 f %%bes,4 bes' [bes8 aes ges f] ees4 d ees2 ~ ees bes ~ bes1 bes,4 bes' [bes8 aes ges f] ees4 d ees2 ~ ees \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##f bes \melisma ~ \melismaEnd bes1 } sopranoLyrics = \lyrics { O ma -- gnum __ my -- ste -- ri -- um et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- _ _ _ -- _ _ _ -- _ _ _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- % (yikes, that's a kludge!) tum, % remove extra extenders between gnum and my -- jcn %o ma -- gnum __ _ _ my -- _ _ -- _ -- ste -- _ _ _ ri -- um o ma -- gnum __ my -- _ _ -- _ -- ste -- _ _ _ ri -- um et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le, et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- _ -- tum, % 21 ut a -- ni -- ma -- li -- a vi -- de -- rent Do -- mi -- num na -- tum, vi -- de -- rent Do -- mi -- num na -- _ _ _ -- _ -- tum % 30 ja -- cent -- tem in prae -- _ se -- _ _ -- pi -- o, % 35 ja -- cent -- tem in prae -- _ se -- _ _ _ -- _ _ -- _ _ pi -- o, % 40 O be -- a -- ta Vir _ -- _ -- _ -- _ _ -- _ _ go, cu -- jus % 45 vi -- sce -- ra me -- _ _ -- _ _ -- ru -- e -- runt por -- ta -- re % 49 Do -- _ _ _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- mi -- num Je -- sum Chri -- _ _ -- _ -- % 53 stum. Al -- le -- lu -- ja, al _ -- _ -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al _ -- _ le -- lu -- ja, % 62 al -- le _ -- _ _ -- _ lu _ _ -- _ ja, al -- le -- lu -- % 67 ja, al -- le _ _ -- _ _ -- lu -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- _ -- ja. __ _ } altoLyrics = \lyrics { % 2 O __ ma -- gnum my -- ste -- ri -- um et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- _ _ _ tum, % 10 o ma -- gnum __ _ _ my -- ste -- _ -- _ ri -- um, et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- _ tum, %% move ut --jcn %% et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- tum, __ et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- tum, __ _ % 21 ut a -- ni -- ma -- li -- a vi -- de -- rent Do -- mi -- num na -- tum, vi -- de -- rent Do -- mi -- num na -- _ _ -- _ tum, ja -- cen _ _ _ -- _ _ -- _ tem % 30 ja -- cent -- tem in prae -- se _ -- _ _ _ -- _ -- _ _ -- _ pi _ -- o, ja -- cen -- tem in prae _ _ -- _ _ -- se _ -- _ _ _ -- _ -- pi -- o. % 40 O be -- a -- ta Vir -- go, cu -- jus vi -- sce -- ra me _ -- _ _ _ -- _ _ -- ru -- e -- runt por -- ta -- re % 49 Do -- _ _ _ -- _ -- mi -- num Je -- _ _ -- _ _ -- sum __ _ Chri -- % 53 stum. Al -- le -- lu -- ja, al _ -- _ le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al _ -- _ le -- lu -- % 67 ja, al -- le _ -- _ _ _ -- lu -- _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- ja, al -- le -- _ _ -- lu -- _ -- _ -- _ _ -- ja. __ _ } tenorLyrics = \lyrics { % 8 O __ ma -- gnum my -- ste -- ri -- um et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- _ -- tum, et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- _ men -- tum, % 19 ut a -- ni -- ma -- li -- a, ut a -- ni -- ma -- li -- a, vi -- de -- rent Do -- mi -- num na -- _ -- % 25 tum, vi -- de -- rent Do -- mi -- num na -- tum % 28 ja -- cen -- tem in prae _ -- se _ _ -- _ _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- pi -- o, ja -- cen -- tem in prae -- se -- _ _ _ -- _ _ -- pi -- o, in prae -- se -- _ _ -- _ _ _ -- _ -- _ _ _ -- pi --o. % 40 O be -- a -- ta Vir -- _ -- _ -- _ -- go, cu -- jus vi -- sce -- ra me _ -- _ _ _ -- ru -- e _ -- _ -- runt por -- ta -- re % 49 Do -- mi -- num Je -- sum Chri -- % 53 stum. Al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al _ -- _ le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu ja, al -- le -- lu -- % 67 ja, al -- le _ -- _ _ _ -- lu _ _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- _ _ _ -- _ -- _ -- _ ja, al -- le _ -- _ _ _ -- lu -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- ja. __ _ } bassLyrics = \lyrics { % 10 O ma -- gnum __ my -- ste -- ri -- um et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- men -- tum, et ad -- mi -- ra -- bi -- le sa -- cra -- _ men -- tum, % 19 ut a -- ni -- ma -- li -- a, vi -- de -- rent Do -- mi -- num __ _ na -- % 25 tum, % 27 ja -- cen -- tem in prae -- se -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- _ pi -- o, ja -- cen -- tem in prae _ -- se _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- pi -- o, in prae -- se -- _ -- _ -- pi -- o. % 40 O be -- a -- ta Vir _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- _ -- go, cu -- jus vi -- sce -- ra me -- ru -- e _ -- _ -- runt % 50 Je -- sum Chri -- _ -- % 53 stum. al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- ja, al -- le -- lu -- % 67 ja, al -- le _ -- _ _ _ -- _ _ _ -- _ -- lu -- _ -- ja, al -- le _ -- _ _ -- _ _ -- lu -- ja. __ _ } sopranoTotal = \simultaneous { \addlyrics \context Staff = soprano { \property Staff.instrument = "Soprano" \property Staff.midiInstrument = "voice oohs" \clef "violin" \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t \notes \context Voice=soprano< \global \sopranoMelody > } \context Lyrics = "soprano" \sopranoLyrics } altoTotal = \simultaneous { \addlyrics \context Staff = alto { \property Staff.instrument = "Alto" \property Staff.midiInstrument = "voice oohs" \clef "violin" \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t \notes \context Voice=alto< \global \altoMelody > } \context Lyrics = "alto" \altoLyrics } tenorTotal = \simultaneous { \addlyrics \context Staff = tenor { \property Staff.instrument = "Tenor" \property Staff.midiInstrument = "voice oohs" \clef "violin_8" \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t \notes \context Voice=tenor< \global \tenorMelody > } \context Lyrics = "tenor" \tenorLyrics } bassTotal = \simultaneous { \addlyrics \context Staff = bass { \property Staff.instrument = "Bass" \property Staff.midiInstrument = "voice oohs" \clef "bass" \property Staff.automaticMelismata = ##t \notes \context Voice=bass< \global \bassMelody > } \context Lyrics = "bass" \bassLyrics } \score { \context ChoirStaff = choir < \sopranoTotal \altoTotal \tenorTotal \bassTotal > \paper { interscoreline = 5 } \midi { \tempo 4=110 } } % EOF -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org _______________________________________________ Lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
